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Ladybird has better results in web rendering tests than Servo, and slowly is gaining on Firefox.

They are already quite competitive.


In the update videos posted on the Ladybird YouTube channel it's said that they have exhausted most of the low hanging fruit in terms of correctness. Browsers and the web standard have a very long tail of odd behavior that you need to implement. I could be wrong, but if I had to guess they'll stall at a point where it's just good enough that some people will make it work, but it's not really useful for general use.


True, but the longer the tail the less likely that you are affected by it.

Since a couple weeks ago it became possible to view all major commercial news websites I use in my country.

If it works for most websites and you only have to reach for Chrome sometimes it would still be perfectly usable.


Ladybird is extremely slow, it's far from being competitive at all.


They're prioritizing correctness to the spec over speed and are still 'officially' in pre-alpha. It's still to be determined how well they can bridge the gap there.

For casual web browsing it's plenty fast enough already to do a lot of things, but they're a relatively small team fighting against decades of optimization.


All browsers are fast enough once you block all the useless web bloat.


But Ladybird's explicit goal is to work on the "real web", i.e. without blocking all that bloat


What? No one is expecting Ladybird to be fast at this stage. No one is claiming that it is. Ladybird is competitive because of the speed of which it is improving.


Very unfair to look at ladybird and call it slow, when its not even alpha and shouldn't be used yet


Remember you're experiencing a debug build of pre-alpha software.


> The idea of frictionlessness has very narcissistic .... That is the Utopia of Frictionlessness: To never be touched by anyone or anything really. Because being actually touched, being inconvenienced, being emotionally moved, having your mind and perception changed means acknowledging ... It means seeing others to a certain degree as your equal. You might be richer, more influential, but we all have bodies that take up space for example.

I really do not like the vibe from author. People are not dealing with some friction (shitty) app, because they have better things to do. Not because they are emotional or need a safe space.

The same way "touching" random people on public, is very rude behaviour. Sometimes it is unavoidable (in busy train), but you should be apologetic about that. Not see it as a virtue for challenging others!

And avoiding touch from random strangers, is not some sort of avoidance. There are germs, diseases (covid), parasites and all sort of nasty stuff. Europe just had resurgence of scabies!

Plus I am highly allergic to animal dander, I do not want to be "touched" by your dog, I will go into asthma attack, and can suffocate!

> But especially if you are rich, you can change the equation. You can pay people to keep others away from you. Keep “your space” protected.

You can protect your space as a normal citizen, I carry pepper spray and walking stick! Nobody on street is touching me, or my kids!

> One way that some people combat this feeling of loneliness is by increasingly talking to chatbots.

And talking to people is somehow different? Even before AI, many people were called NPCs for a good reasson. Say something wrong and they smash "cancel" button!

If nobody is talking to you, you are probably lame!


While the author might be in one end of the spectrum, you might want to acknowledge you are at the other end and I hope it’s temporary because you sound bitter to the point you’re either a teenager or a person hurt by life.


Now that's friction !


Vote for Pedro.


lmao well said


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