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Here's a variation with the lion, they removed it after his complaints

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I like how the answer to the whole discussion was "eh, let's remove the lion, that'll be fine".


I appreciate the counter-take — it seems like almost every take I read on the modern music business is coming from people who don't actually know what the reality on the ground is.

And gd submithub is awesome, I have been sucked right in, making submissions, buying credits, rating songs. It's taken up my whole morning, well done!


yep, I use lists and it helps a lot with this. Twitter got a lot better for me when I put all the hot take tweeters into a list and unfollowed them, then only check that list when I feel like going there. Which is not often


which fields has this changed for?


Internet Research Agency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency

Were you thinking the Irish Republican Army?


Yep, totally confused me. Thanks!


I had disabled my account a week ago, not realizing there was a separate delete option, then deleted it a couple days ago. I didn't run into this issue; I signed into my "disabled" account first, then went to the delete link and it worked.


It's a strange bug for sure. Friend I helped had to change their password 2-3 times before it would go through.

We typed it very carefully. Tried copying from notepad, the same copying used to reset the password.

It indeed felt like Hotel California, as someone below compared.


But (correct me if I'm wrong) payment channels are connected to particular sets of recipients, but not necessarily any and all recipients. Your money is locked into that channel until you close it. You might need to open a different channel to reach your actual recipient.


No, you are missing the "network" part of "Lightning Network" it uses an onion-routing-like protocol to allow you to pay "through" other people.

So if I have a channel with you, and you have one with coinbase, I can buy bitcoin from coinbase through you without ever opening another channel, entirely counterparty-risk-free.

And in that scenario if you "refuse" to relay my transaction, or you try to do something sneeky like broadcast an old transaction that we made where I had .1 BTC and you had .9 BTC, that's breaking the agreement we have made and I can broadcast a counter-transaction to the blockchain proper which gives me all of the money in the channel (1 BTC).

And if I try to backstab you by broadcasting the "give me all the money" transaction when you haven't done anything wrong, you have a "counter-counter-transaction" you can broadcast that forces all the money in the channel to you (1 BTC). (and the counter-counter-transaction only works if you HAVE NOT broadcast the original transaction)

There is a bit more complexity to it, but that's the gist.


Easy peasy! Seriously, I've been skeptical of LN's success for its complexity. But reading your and others' comments here I can see that many people understand it clearly. It turns out I've been biased by my own ignorance. The more I learn about LN, the more hopeful I'm becoming. Thanks for helping.


Like most of bitcoin, it's a deceptively complex system made up of suprisingly simple parts.

I'm honestly still skeptical that LN will really take off (it needs the network effect to be useful), but the idea behind it is very elegant and solid.


If you're in the US, you might have heard of Starker exchanges (a.k.a. 1031 or like-kind). It's a method to defer realization of capital gains, usually on real estate. There are outfits that will help you form a multi-party exchange to match impedances between people who want to buy/sell properties, but some want to trade and some want to exchange for money.

Similar with organ donations. I might not match my wife's blood type, but I can donate a kidney to some other random person if there's a network that matches someone with my wife' blood type to her.

These are all the same idea.


Counter-counter-transactions sound like textbook example of overengineering.

Bitcoin's only advantage at this point is its price, which will go away as soon as there is a crash. Then we can scrap Bitcoin, LN, and all the baggage and start with a clean 3rd generation crypto slate.


It's only overengineering if it is superfluous, and in this case it's not.

The counter-counter-transaction solves a very real problem and makes the entire system counterparty-risk-free. It's no more "overengineering" than your airbags are overengineering.


This is why the Lightning network is something more than just payment channels. If you have 2 or more channels open on the network, you are a node that can have payments routed through.

Same with trying to pay someone on the network whom you do not have an open channel with: the LN's purpose is to facilitate a network of channels.

Certainly hubs will form, but there should be many of them, and if there's a path to your recipient, you don't need a dedicated channel with them.


payments can be routed to other recipients if there is a path to them in the network.


this is an actually good idea - it's still a good name if you have no idea where it comes from or what it means


weary - as in you are tired that it is always facebook that implements these things? or wary/leery - in that you are cautious about thinking it is a good thing that facebook is the one implementing this?


That would be the second one! Oops, thanks for your correction, I'm not so sharp all the time :)


How about this factor - 31% of all traffic-related deaths involve alcohol-impaired driving.


SO, a car breathalyzer that allowed only automatic driving if too high, would definitely be an improvement we could all get on board with?


wow, that was a leap. I think a lot of people would be thrilled to have the car drive when they've been drinking.


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