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Bruh

Don’t outsource the only thing left for our brains to do themselves :/

“Ask HN: So who did you vote for?”


It would be interesting to see an anonymous poll of HN to find out how many silent Trump voters there are here.


Judging by the comments here, it will be majority democrat.


> silent Trump voters

If it's anonymous, we might be surprised. I know a number of HNers personally in my life, and they'd never admit to voting for Trump here or to anyone in their day jobs.


> If it's anonymous, we might be surprised.

Fully agree.

Admitting you supported Trump on HN is suicide.

But then more than half of the country voted for him, so I guess ... do the math, even if HN's participants are biased blue.


That’s helpful thank you.


No required software download? As simple as plugging the glasses into my work laptop?

If that’s the case then this might be what I buy


If you need glasses, you need to get a set of lenses made for your prescription using a template they send you.


This is exactly right. I work in investment banking and the reason I believe Excel will never go away is because of how easy it is to follow extremely complex financing structures.

If I build a financial model, the 60 year old CFO needs to be able to understand it and agree with it.

One other aspect is all of the shortcuts and hot keys. If you switched to a different software you’d have to relearn shortcuts that you have been using for several years.


> 60 year old CFO

As a 59-year-old, I am extremely disappointed in your insinuation that people our age are unfamiliar with modern technology. We built the foundations for all the cool stuff you whippersnappers take for granted, including Excel.


I read the parent comment as "If I go to a 60 year old and present them a non-excel build, they will ask me why didn't I just use excel?"


it's more that a 60 yo has likely being using excel for 40 years and (almost certainly rightly) not interested in something else to model a business.


As other commenters explained, Excel is universal. Excel is the global manifestation of God on Earth. Excel is the final avatar. If Pythagoras were alive now, he would get Excel in an instant.


I'm an engineer/scientist and I find it super hard to follow other people's excel files. All you see if some data/numbers instead of the actual code/calculations.


I wrote a VB macro that displays the formula for a cell, next to the cell. Granted you have to add a cell (typically a column) to make space for it. It returns either a formula, or "constant" if the cell doesn't contain a formula. I could make it more sophisticated, but just those two things are enough to make spreadsheets a lot easier for me to follow.

Following spreadsheets is like trying to find something in my garage if all of the boxes have lids. But if the boxes are all open, I can find stuff in a jiffy, even if the boxes are disorganized.


The closed toolbox is a nice analogy for opening a sheet full of numbers. A foreign Excel sheet can take a lot of clicking around to get an idea of how it works sometimes.


Control-backtick toggles formulas. No need for VB(A).


Ah, I didn't know that. So I tried it.

It does display formulas, but by hiding the values. What my macro does is allow the formula to be displayed permanently in its own column.

Granted I'm one user out of many, and have switched to programming for any kind of quantitative work. but I'm still quite supportive of Excel.


Do you realize it toggles data and formula display? That ought to be fine for anyone with more short term memory than a gnat.


Excel sheets are built visually so there is absolutely no sane way to parse them. Just the same thing as trying to restructure a pdf at the end of the day.


Yeah this is what Microsoft is trying to do with copilot.

But they couldn't figure it out either so it's limited to data formatted as table.


They’ve removed that limitation now, I think. That said, I still haven’t found any use-case for Copilot within an Excel workbook that works (probably because I’ve only ever asked it to do very difficult things since I don’t need it for easy stuff). So there’s that.


Worked for a company whose automated options trading system was an.... excel spreadsheet. Every now and then I would need to RDP to a machine to RDP into another machine to restart it. Pain. So much pain.


Cheeky response..

It would take a 1 year project and 5 devs to replace what one finance person created in a day.

Then when it didnt work complain the SME got the requirements wrong.

Im being silly but as a dev i hate the hate for excel, though i know from years of experience that its also a nightmare.


I think it's important to think of Excel as a tool for modelling reality and not a tool for changing it. IMO Excel should not be producing data feeds that other tools expect real time access to, nor should it make API calls that mutate state on other platforms.


At that point why not code something using the Interop APIs to programatically interface with the spreadsheet? It's a PITA to code but it works.


I'm sure they were glad they had you to fix their problems!


What year?


> One other aspect is all of the shortcuts and hot keys. If you switched to a different software you’d have to relearn shortcuts that you have been using for several years.

This! I love Cursor’s IDE but, boy, does it really sh*t me off everytime I update it and they remove the keybinding for CMD + SHFT + L.

Like, seriously, you couldn’t chose a different combination for your added feature’s shortcut!?

It’s not like the ‘find all instances of’ shortcut is some hidden, unused gem, which you have to tickle the Gruffalo in order to access! It’s one of the most important shortcuts!


Well it might be replaced by another spreadsheet. Maybe one that does actual innovation. I don't think people in the 80s ever thought that Lotus 1-2-3 would go away.


> the reason I believe Excel will never go away is because of how easy it is to follow extremely complex financing structures.

Can you give an example? I am unaware of such power.


Why can’t people just simply exercise self control


There are teams of potentially 100+ at big tech companies who’s sole purpose is to make their flavor of feed as addictive as neuron-activationally possible


So we should just accept our fate. Got it


No, parent was answering your question, not offering judgement nor the conclusion that you so swiftly jumped to.


Purposeful avoidance of temptation is self control.


I ask myself the same thing every day


It got stuck in 1984.


I’m fairly certain most of the “sour grapes” comments are AI generated


I don’t need this energy


That is a sweet concept. For the first time ever I would probably buy a new iPhone if that was real.


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