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All business inherently know that the most difficult thing is to get a customer to open their wallet. A subscription commitment is far more valuable than an impulsive/interest driven one time payment


Because all customers know that the moment you open your wallet, you're marked as a sucker and there will be no end to the appeals to repeat the mistake.


A 'path to profit' is the time tested lifeline of any enterprise. However this is never highlighted as it doesn't bode well with the general social psyche of humans.

For last 20 years, tech enabled startups, chose 'postpone profit' strategy adopting 'free to use' or 'ad supported' approach helped by raising high capital to build moats around the target market.

Now this trend can be either seen as a moment where the moat is complete and 'path to profit' is through captive customers. (Or) a decline/failure of the 'postpone profit' strategy accelerated by the current economic recession.

All social media and any other free to use switching to subscriptions is quite a probability now.


An ironic thing is that companies that choose to postpone profits will find that when the time comes to charge for profit, they will have burned all good will, and people might finally be coerced to pay, but they'll pay any other company.


It’s so stupid because there already is a playbook for being profitable and still giving your product away for free. It’s the free trial. Hey, we want to earn your trust, so here’s a free month of the service. If you like us, great! Here’s the price at the end. Otherwise no hard feelings.

Instead, the playbook now is:

WE ARE FREE. YES, FREE AS IN NOTHINGBURGER DOLLARS. WE ARE BETTER THAN FREE! WE WILL PROMISE YOU ANYTHING YOU WANT! PUT ALL YOUR INFORMATION HERE AND WE PROMISE TO MAKE YOU FAMOUS AND RICH!

lol jk gimme that data. Also you’re locked in/addicted to our platform. Give us your money.


> 'free to use' or 'ad supported'

These things are completely different. Facebook became profitable 4 years after its funding.


Very well identified, the cropping up of such an article should not be taken at face value.

Consider such scenarios too which impact profit of specific industries namely Pharma

1. Demand for curcumin has greatly increased leading to an inflation of its market price in recent years

2. Turmeric is an age old go to antiseptic and antibiotic. During Covid it was very common for Indian families to consume turmeric flavored milk as a way of keeping the virus out.

Almost all health, medicinal, sensational articles irrespective of their source publication have to be put under the critical lens of global corporate profit motive

Am I saying there is no adulteration, am not. Just that the publishing intent is no saint either.


> the cropping up of such an article should not be taken at face value.

I assume the article appeared because recently the government of Bangladesh and/or India declared a big political victory over turmeric adulteration. Where there are ten articles, it's not a big surprise that there are 11 articles.


In that case, If you end up using OSS without any necessity of contribution from you, would you pay for that OSS software? since you did not contribute labor to it.


I do pay for some more permissive open source projects that I use, even ones I contribute back to, yes.

I completely understand organizations banning AGPL software. Having an employee mistakenly violate the license is just too great a risk. The majority of AGPL projects seem to be offering the same product on a different commercial license, which is the only way I'd use an AGPL project. E.g. paying for a non-APGL license to use it without the risk.


(Not OP.) If you can, I think you should. Sometimes the type of contribution you can make is not accepted. For example, some projects don’t accept donations.


Unrelated, is the word pagan used in the headline, appropriate in this day and age? It is an umbrella term that is used to refer to non Abrahamic religions with a derogatory slant like 'heathen'. This is similar to using Mythology as a term for any non Abrahamic religious references.


In Norway at least they don't have these connotations. We long had a "Norwegian Heathen Society", who a few years ago abandoned the name because it had long since become so uncontroversial it didn't serve a purpose any more.

Originally the point was to annoy christians - Norway had a state church and laws against blasphemy and they regularly tried, but consistently failed, to get charged for it (last time those laws had much of an effect was when Life of Brian was originally refused a rating out of concern it broke the law).

As a Norwegian, I wouldn't hesitate to call myself a heathen.


Thanks good to know.


I'm generalizing, but most Norwegians wouldn't find pagan or heathen derogatory.

During the 90s, it was embraced as a common denomer for the anti-religious movement.


For some reason this reminds me of the 1987 reboot of Dragnet, starring Dan Ackroyd, in which a satanic crime ring called PAGAN ("People Against Goodness And Normalcy") were planning on sacrificing a virgin. IIRC it was secretly run by the local archibishop.

But honestly, at this point, we've had 30 years of largely positive press for neopagans; I don't see how the word could be considered pejorative.


What alternative word would you prefer to be used? The Norse didn't have a name for their religion before encountering Christianity.


I guess one could use the name of the population (Norse? Danes?) or the specific deity or something associated with it.

E.g. we refer to Greek or Roman temples rather than Pagan ones. We also say Apollo's Temple, or Solomon's temple. I guess "pagan" is a fallback for lack of more precise names.

(I didn't notice it in the title at all until GP's comment, I just realized now this is an interesting oddity)


Today, the Swedish word for their belief is asatro, where as is male deity from the era in question and tro is belief. (Female deity of same era is asynja)


Is it really refering specifically to a male deity? I thought it refers in short in general to the Æsir, one of the principal pantheons, with male and female gods

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%86sir


It is what it said when I looked it up in the Swedish Academy's thesaurus. But perhaps it can differ.

https://svenska.se/so/?id=102892_1&ref=kcnr419785


Asatro in many places has a strong negative connotation due to partially being coopted by racists. I've encountered more purported believers in Asatro who are neo-Nazi than not. They may well be a small minority for what I know, but they are vocal, and so it's a term that's tricky.


That is a form of historical appropriation that we should not just blindly accept. The word originates in the 1820s and the word as is much older. I for one will use it in its original meaning and encourage others to do as well.


I get that sentiment, though I feel it's a bit of a losing battle, because it also means you may often need to contextualize what you mean if you want to avoid misunderstandings


I have not felt that, now I don't use the word asatro often but for example in this thread I believe the room for misunderstanding is minuscule.


All Microsoft applications such as Teams, Outlook now open links only on Edge, completely ignoring the default browser setting.


You can turn that behaviour off though [0]. I would agree that it should be off by default instead of on by default - but they don't completely ignore the setting if you don't want them to.

[0] https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/web-links-from-out...


Had a smile reading through this. So many web developers out there who have no idea about history of HTTP. That it was designed for static document serving and since been twisted to serve applications.


As an ancient civilization with an undeciphered script, Indus Valley Civ. is mired in controversy and claims

Religion wise though article claims an Egyptian link which is new to me, it has some clear Hindu associations like the Pasupathinath seal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashupati_seal

Script wise the contention and claim also comes from Tamil and Sanskrit. TED talk on this below

https://youtu.be/kwYxHPXIaao


Pashupati is much, much older than modern concept of Hinduism. Many cultures around the time had a "Master of Animals" motif depicted l in their cultural artifact https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_of_Animals

You could call Rudra/Shiva as modern versions of that motif. But calling the figure in Pashupati seal as depecting a Hindu deity is probably not correct. IVC was pre-vedic after all. No doubt later cultures adopted IVC deities into their own pantheon. But IVC religion was likely very far from what we recognize as Hinduism. And probably closer to religions in Mesopotamia at the time. Egypt does seem further culturally than Mesopotamia to me though. So I find the Egyptian connection a bit tenuous as well.


Hinduism is Vedic + IVC + other indigenous belief systems


Not sure why this is getting downvoted. This is called the “Hindu synthesis”.


Because there is no clear IVC integration and the integration of Buddhism is rejected by practicing buddhists.

There has been historic and ongoing synthesis which very often follows embrace, extend, extinguish pattern, so the GPs characterization is misleading.


Buddhism is not mentioned by GP, but there are many big differences between vedic religion and modern hinduism. for eg. animal sacrifice vs vegetarianism.

These ideas probably gain traction from the Sramana traditions which also gave rise to Buddhism and Jainism.

It is hard to tease apart the influences exactly, esp in the case of IVC where very little is known about the culture. But some iconography bears a striking resemblence iconography found in indian religions at a later date.


In particular pashupati is not mentioned in rgveda


Weather is an underrated reason. India perhaps has the best suited weather conditions for humans to thrive. 80% or more of the land have non-extreme weather


Before Sugarcane was adopted in India, Palm sugar was already widely used as a sweetener and the process was Palm alcohol(Kallu), Palm juice (Pathani) and Palm sugar(Karuppatti)


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