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Spolsky and co. sold SO in 2021 - timing IS everything.



Ynsect-crushing reality - nobody really wants to eat bugs


“Human food was never the focus”

I eagerly purchase insect/grub kibble for my dog - both fly and cricket based. Also a lot of vegetarian kibble, I am a vegetarian myself.


But still your dog doesn't really want to eat the bugs, it's just there's no bowl of steak next to it


Have you met dogs?


We had a dog who would pull watermelon rinds out of the compost pile to eat. We gave her nice bones, but it's not enough. Nothing is enough. All is food and food is all.


How mighty wolves have fallen...


How can you know that? Dogs were domesticated on being fed scraps to start with and came from wolves which are also natural scavengers and eat all sorts of nasty (to us) things. Ive seen many dogs happily gobble up insects, even stink bugs. Dogs don't even know what their food is made out of 95% of the time these days so im not sure anybody can claim they simply don't like eating insect food without some kind of study to back it up.


I was being a little facetious. Yes they probably "like" processed insect food designed for them, but for the average dog, I'm still betting on the steak.

Wolves scavenge opportunistically, but they are first apex predators. Their primary food drive is to hunt in packs for large game and gorge. Dogs are not so far removed.


Why not? Have you tried? I have, must've been almost 30 years ago now, at Wageningen University. They taste quite well, if well prepared (they were). Insect burgers are also nice. I liked Damhert's insect burger [1]. People just think too much it looks like [2]

[1] https://www.jumbo.com/producten/damhert-nutrition-insecta-gr...

[2] https://www.theburningplatform.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/0...


Yet most people over a certain age probably have without realising. Haribo, Tropicana, lots of fruit juices, sweets and dairy products used Cochineal.


People do however both keep pets and eat animals that eat insects, which is what the company was aiming for.


I would happily eat cricket protein if it were more scalably environmentally sustainable. I’m fine with milk, but cows aren’t helping our greenhouse sitchu.

Not to mention the issues with pea protein and lead content.


What are the problems with pea protein and lead?


A recent investigation by Consumer Reports found that plant-based protein powders, particularly those made with pea protein, contain significantly higher levels of lead compared to animal-based alternatives, with over two-thirds of tested products exceeding safe daily lead intake levels.


And here are some of the reasons why:

1. high risk of severe allergic reactions and cross-reactivity

2. contamination with pathogens, toxins, and heavy metals

3. digestive and nutritional drawbacks, including anti-nutrients (no pun intended) and imbalances

4. and last but not least, the good old precautionary principle: limited research on long-term human health impacts and emerging hazards

if you still want to eat zee bugz, consider yourself warned !


I don't understand why everyone involved didn't immediately realize especially the first two of those whys. Eating bugs at scale is such a surefire way to get everyone allergic to random stuffs.

And it's not like it was never tried. There are tribes and cultures that do it at tiny scales, which means humans used to do it and quit at some point in the past. It's removing not an insignificant Chesterton's Fence.


Fascinating and well told - many thanks!


Thank you!


Lamarck has entered the chat


I think its interesting that in the "rationalist" latter half of the 20th century Freud began to be dismissed at least in part on account of his elective affinity with Lamarck; now, it is clear that certain environmental and social factors have an influence on offspring at the genomic level from both parents.


Freud was not a scientist, he was a great artist. It is not clear whether any of his patients got better after Freud's treatment.


I see you being downvoted, but it's a good quip.

Lamarckian vs. Mendelian genetics was about heritable traits being acquired in life (Lamarck), or being discrete units passed down at conception (Mendel).

Genetics is almost entirely Mendelian, but some of epigenetics is durable and thus Lamarckian.

There's also retroviral integrations, transposons, and all sorts of other complexities that don't fit neatly into boxes.


Interesting about the epigenetics, transposons, and other DNA augmentations…

These are all fundamentally a story of how the individual encounters and uses information in their lived experience. But there is also a very strong consensus narrative that must be respected, but also challenged and evolved. DNA is literally the informational substrate of a life… when you adopt a personal belief, or are subject to someone elses, you have the ability to help but also harm your informational substrate. Tend your garden of ideas with love and care.


The dirty little secret is that there is an incredible ideological incentive for many for Lamarckianism to be true so that they can blame “lived experience” for every ill in the world. Retroviruses, transposons, etc do not have that specific property and thus you see far fewer articles extolling their purported impacts.


Not just epigenetics, cells (and probably organisms) have mechanisms to induce mutations at elevated rates (e.g. E. Coli lacZ mutation under pressure). I wouldn't be surprised if nervous systems are elegantly wired to both epigentic and mutagenic levers to accelerate evolution through stimulus guided modifications rather than just raw survival/selection.


completely agree, it's a miserable environment for software developers. The Xilinx environment was a 1 GB download, EACH TIME they issued an update. I actually met with someone from higher up to give them some feedback, but they were clearly not interested in the slightest in making any changes.


From a French novel: Elle n'avait qu'un seul défaut : elle était insupportable.


Anyone can develop a Zen attitude by committing to Zen meditation, or other forms of meditation. It may sound trite, but depression can come from managing the past, anxiety from managing the future. But the past is gone, the future is just a fantasy, what is real is what is happening now. The more time spent in the present, the less anxiety and depression. This is one of the benefits of meditation.


yes, felt like one long humble brag after that. how tiresome.


I think the focus should be on more and better APIs, not MCP servers.


Agreed, I too wish for a better horse.


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