Wordpress is an extremely new framework, so it will be new to a lot of developers, but it provides an extremely performant developer friendly product. One drawback is that it is highly specialized, so it only had a few applications but luckily upvoted fits into this niche. Hosting is really still a problem as their is a lack of providers and a steep complexity curve. No one has really provided a flexible way to host a platform like wordpress and coupled with the lack of maturity and bleeding edge nature it makes sense that they went with a managed hosting service. Even as new as the organization is, they have a great array of security products and plugins which will certainly shield it from the less scrupulous users. This is going to likely be the first major company using wordpress, but I bet it could be a platform that will underpin a large percentage of websites.
Unless we're thinking of two very different blogging platforms, Wordpress is pretty much exactly the opposite of "extremely new". Can you please elaborate on why you consider it to be extremely new and unfamiliar to a lot of developers?
> steep complexity curve
Brought on by the basic insecurity of the Wordpress blogging platform. Executable PHP in the Database, as a single example...
> No one has really provided a flexible way to host a platform like wordpress
Sorry? Wordpress hosts have been around for years, again, I'm really not understanding what you're trying to convey here.
> This is going to likely be the first major company using wordpress
You mean, aside from just about everybody; Wired coming to mind as a recent, big example.
I feel like I'm really missing some context here.
EDIT: Satire. Got it. Of course, then there's the question of whether the +1 response by heathwblack is also satire, or... :D
Yeah, I am sorry. I hardly ever make comments like this and it is doubly dubious because I lost my account recently, but this was meant to be satire. When the PM responded, I couldn't help myself but double down.
My account is new so it does look like a straight troll account but I was just having a bit of fun. TBH, as I stated in another comment ITT, wordpress provides a really easy way to test out this concept. I expanded my thoughts on the concept in that comment, but as to wordpress:
I bet reddit is just getting crushed with improvements and the engineering team is overworked. It is really easy and inexpensive to test this concept out without losing developer bandwith. wordpress provides a pretty good CMS (obviously bloated, [standard other wordpress criticsims], etc.) but they can get a tight feedback cycle on this idea and it could successful, but if not, will not be resource intensive.
I generally wish them the best of luck, they need something to work at a monetization level, and I hope this helps as it likely is not the long term solution.
I had a rough first experience with wordpress for a client recently and I just had to vent.
I'm almost certain the comment you're replying to is satire. I had to read through it twice to be sure though. It's either satire or coming from a parallel universe where everything is upside-down.
> Executable PHP in the Database, as a single example...
Do you have a specific example of this? WP itself doesn't use executable PHP in the database, although there are plugins that do (and are hence heavily discouraged).
(You _could_ be referencing storing complex values as serialized data for options/meta, which can technically give you some sorts of executable capabilities: https://www.owasp.org/index.php/PHP_Object_Injection )
^What this individual said is way better than I could say it, but is basically why we chose Wordpress VIP ^
In addition the Wordpress VIP program has much higher standards for plugins and security, which are things we care about greatly. Lots of great publications use VIP like Techcrunch, FiveThirtyEight, Facebook, and Time.
Awesome, that is what I thought. PHP is one of those languages that wasn't designed by committee so there isn't that much documentation about it, but the founder built it specifically as scalable programming language and had been designing languages for years. I can see it replacing newer languages like nodeJS, Go and PERL in the future. In the next couple years people will start realizing that the consistency, speed and security offset the lack of communities using it, and I can see it becoming really popular. Wordpress will become big as well as LAMP architectures are really hot right now, and not a lot projects provide a CMS that has a minimal UI that provides only what a user needs and that makes it a really lightweight choice for a CMS. No bloat, high security and a trendy new design. Excited to see vip.wordpress finally getting some love!
Yeah, all the hip new startups are using this technology. Obviously, NoSql makes it impossoble to change your data structure. You are going to see these Silicon Rust Belt companies or "Technologies Old Guard" if you will, scramble to pick this up. Ancient companies like Slack, Uber, Postmates, Google and Bitcoin had a good run but it's over. 2015 is the year of the sharing/on-demand economy and communication is getting revamped:
American Online
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They are going by just the initials AOL, and are poised for massive growth. People have said they are a total slack clone, but they are really just overlooking the integration with hotmail notifications. Rumor is Silicon Valley darling Time-Warner is poised to make a big investment.
Skour
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Travis Kalanick, a name a lot of people have forgotten, was the original founder of Uber but he bailed to disrupt the entrenched bitcoin/peer-to-peer/file-sharing industry with Skour. It is a totally distributed network for sharing your music. Obviously, it is a little derivative of stuff like Napster and pandora, but I wouldn't count them out. Box and Dropbox are companies that have been cold from the get-go. You have moore's law compounding to make storage and hardware super expensive, so profit will only go up as people clamour to share data even at high bandwith rates. Skour, is looking to capitalize on that idea, but allow consumers to save a bit of money by contributing to the network and sharing files from their own systems. With server prices skyrocketing, consumers are going to be the only one's who can afford dropbox/box. Look at Skour to hop into the Enterprise space with music sharing putting them on the map.
Kosmo.com
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You have this "on-demand" economy starting to really cool off, NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THIS. It is going to be big. Kosmo.com is a company that delivers anything, when you want it. No one is doing this right now. Older companies like Postmates and Uber have been here for years, and when you need a $5 dolalr sandwhich, where are these guys?. Uber has been doing delivery for so long that it is going to be tough to shut down their lobby. Talk about "Rent Collector", they built a business around monopolizing sharing and delivery. Kosmo.com is pretty unique though, and they have a huge war chest to get it done. A lot of people think that marginless micro transactions won't be able to scale out the volume required to be profitable, but let's remember Uber started as a delivery company.
Apple.com
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Apple.com is facing some serious competition from Apple.com.
Now historically both companies have had their hand in a lot of pies.
Apple has some pretty compelling things going for it. They just hired their old CEO. Now running NeXT and Apple it is almost impossible not to draw comparisons with Jack Dorsey and Elon Musk. Jobs is poised to continue in the media space with a new media player which is supposedly better than the walkman. Job's also poached the NeXT team and are revamping the macintosh operating system. You are really going to see a return to Apple's roots here. Job's, an engineer, has been designing things from the ground up but his "Aspy" demeanor and liek of salesmanship have crippled the company in the past.
On the other hand you have Apple CEO Tim Cook's long track record to contend with but he is still innovating. You have a traditional guy like Jobs who is only willing to tackle the safe legacy stuff he brought over from NeXT. With a lose cannon like Tim Cook, it is pretty much disruption or bust. His media blitz 2054 was a massive success, and he has maintained a solid image amidst allegations of failure to share credit. The company has really been evolving the CAAS space. Camera as a service is going to be really big. He has been dumping resources into the iPhone camera for a few years, and this is the biggest driving factor of iPhone sales. Outside of a 10x increase in MP and zoom, he has really brought hackers on board by unlocking the "Walled Garden". On stage at CameraCon, he released a 2000MP camera that felt like you were inside the picture it was so good. That level of detail has set them apart of late, from companies tackling the solved problem of security and laten y.
Difficult to tell if Steve Job's fastpaced, borderline reckless product release cycles will be to complex and overengineered for the general public. OTOH, Cook's acquisiton of innovative hardware manufacturer BEATS is in the past, and people are wondering if he can continue to deliver the Mega Pixels customers are demanding.
So 2015 is the year of mySQL, postgrSQL *SQL, .NET. Get ready to port all your Mosaic/Netscape apps over to the Windows Phone because 2015 is the year of the apps.
You truly should write a book about sarcasm, and the book could be written in exactly the same sort of every-single-thing-exact-opposite sarcasm. I would buy this book.
Honestly, really means a lot. I think I will try and do a blog post every now and again because I keep wanting to continue, but HN really isn't the place.
Also, I just got a pretty hefty equity package from a serious business entrepreneur so I don't have a ton of time. You've probably heard of him (rcc9la26d7534400a6a03514c34f9200@reply.craigslist.org). He's got a sure thing in the content discovery business, it's sort of like Mosaic for Google Chrome, but we use the Tinder layout. We launched the MVP in Aberdeen, Saskatchewan Province in Canada[0] and have market penetration of ~5 which is a total and a percentage. We already have more users than there were fatal cougar attacks in North America the previous decade[1] which is the top metric VCs look for.
Thanks though does mean a lot, and we are scaling globally so I can probably hook you with up a DBA position. We're full stack so just basic stuff e.g 5+ Years of Swift, and obviously experience with a robust database framework like Microsoft Access with a google drive caching layer, adobe dreamweaver a big plus.
I couldn't work the joke in about our computatiom engine using godaddy and a ti-83 plus silver edition, so I'll just come out and say it so you know we're serious. Cheers.
> So 2015 is the year of mySQL, postgrSQL *SQL, .NET. Get ready to port all your Mosaic/Netscape apps over to the Windows Phone because 2015 is the year of the apps.
Am I just misreading this or completely uninformed on something, but since when is Wordpress extremely new?
In your child comment, you say "I can see it replacing newer languages like nodeJS, Go and PERL in the future. In the next couple years people will start realizing that the consistency, speed and security offset the lack of communities using it, and I can see it becoming really popular."
Again, I feel like I'm in a time warp, but when have those three things been qualities of PHP? Also, PHP has been huge for years. Node.JS and Go have only recently been taking over.
It seems a little weird to see a company as big as Reddit succumbing the "new and shiny" mentality, though. I guess this is kind of a Reddit side project, but still... I don't get why they're betting everything on such a new framework (an open source one at that: who's going to support it?) when tried and true solutions such as StoryServer are available.
I think the reddit core programmers (Stallman, DHH, Linus Torvalds and Al Gore) have been itching to sink their teeth into something with more depth. StoryServer is a strong offering, but ultimately the team was worried that even though CNET rebranded storyserver from PRISM when they acquired it people would confuse it with the NSA program PRISM (rebranded as Facebook in the US). Totally correct though, I am a little rusty with storyserver and I should pick it back up (we've been using facetime and a sharpie marker as our backend).
edit: Update: It's happening!!!!!! Thanks, HN.