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> Light rail is incredibly efficient, and in a system where you are designing the city first, I'd forgo roads entirely.

While I'm a firm believer that private cars (at least at a scale seen in the U.S.) and dense cities are fundamentally incompatible, I'm not quite onboard with getting rid of roads altogether. What about bicycles? Emergency vehicles? Construction equipment? Furniture deliveries? Deliveries of merchandise to stores? None of these things are going to be able to get around without a road network of some description, albeit hopefully one significantly reduced in scope from a typical American city.




You can build things that can function as roads but aren't roads. Look at most European cities' inner pedestrian zones.

There are roads of old, but closed to traffic and heavily modified. In case of emergency, fire engines can get in. Bicycles and pedestrians can comingle happily on a normal day.

My hometown's (Ljubljana) pedestrian zone is more than a kilometer across. It's quite awesome.


I agree. Pedestrian zones that are closed off to regular traffic are very common in Europe and they're awesome.

They also boost the traffic the surrounding businesses get and make it easier for cafés and restaurants to add a terrace area.

Well-executed pedestrian zones are one of the easiest and most effective ways of making a street more liveable in my opinion.

Edit: Also, (preferably one-way)streets where the sidewalk-to-road ratio is a lot higher than usual. Case in point[1]

[1]: https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5003418,19.0510879,3a,75y,17...


This is the exact kind of thing I'd love to see more of. I would still call it a road, though, if it can support limited vehicular traffic. "Pedestrian road", maybe. It's a good point, though, that you can support the use cases I mentioned without resorting to the more typical "road-for-cars, sidewalk-for-people" paradigm.


It's important to make a semantic distinction between 'streets' and 'roads'. A typical one is:

Streets are things which are where humand can play, people bike and walk, go to stores, around the places we live and work, etc. They are 'Places' where people can live about their day to day lives. Very human-friendly.

'Roads' which are higher-speed connectors between Places. Highways are a very high-speed type of roads.

In a typologically healthy region, there is a clear distinction between streets in roads, but in the US there is a blurring, and we often see what are sometimes dubbed 'stroads' - a mutant street-road hybrid, the sort of thing we typically see in the US with wide, fast, multi-lane streets, lined with strip malls and the like. They're hostile to human and make walking between locations at best boring and tedious, and at worst dangerous.


This is interesting stuff. Where'd you learn about this distinction?


Strongtowns I think was my first introduction to it. Here's a good recent article on it

http://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2016/5/22/engineers-shoul...

Note his definitions are a little different than what I used, but have roughly the same point




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