> That's hilarious. That device was just released.
Pixel/Nexus then. The reason Pixel is valid is because Google has been giving these devices (since you're not very good at reading: 'these devices' refers to 'Pixel/Nexus') good support for a long time.
> You're also wrong about "vastly decreased" performance.
I am not; it is widely documented.
> Apple is kicking Android's ass in this department, that's universally understood.
Did you read what I wrote? Did you comprehend? I haven't been comparing to all Android devices. I never did, never have, in none of my posts. Why would I? I know there are Android vendors who deliver shit support. What I am not saying is that all Android vendors do this. Motorola, for example, when still part of Google delivered good support, and all the examples I previously gave also still count.
> Another distorted lie-response to a claim I didn't make; I didn't say "with security updates". I said full compatibility with the fully-updated software.
Yes, I know you didn't claim that because you're unable to see I am the one who claimed that because your claim was, well, I'll be friendly: "inaccurate". I don't want full software support, I don't give a shit about full software support. I want security and reliability fixes, and, quite frankly it should fall under warranty. Nobody tosses their fridge, car, oven, PC after 2 or 3 years yet in handheld (smartphone/tablet) market this is somewhat normal. We agree there is a problem here, and on average compared to Android, yes Apple does better. At a premium price though.
> Apple is able to push out vital security updates WITHOUT doing a full software update
Yeah, with magic fairy tale patches. Get real. I don't have proof? All the vulnerabilities found and patched lately (good part of 2015, and all of 2016) in iOS 10 are not available in iOS 8: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_8
"Support status Third-party application support only"
Great that means my mother's iPad from 2012 isn't supported anymore. Yeah, great software support...
> Yes, your bias is evident
Pot, meet kettle.
> Tragically what you're missing here is that locked-down nature also makes the devices secure.
My Android phone is not rooted, and I'm talking about locked down in the sense that I am not able to replace the hardware. In the sense that I'm more or less leasing the device since I am not allowed or easily able to get root if I desire. In the sense that an American company is putting their values on me as an European which means: violence is good, sex is bad. Fuck those values, I decide what is good and bad for me, my wife, and my children.
I'd also argue that every phone is fundamentally insecure to nation states if the attacker has physical access.
> You probably have no clue what it actually costs.
I do, I bought an iPhone SE for my mother and had the shop install a screen protector for her. While they were attaching it, I informed how much it'd cost to repair. Like I said, 160 EUR at minimum.
Pixel/Nexus then. The reason Pixel is valid is because Google has been giving these devices (since you're not very good at reading: 'these devices' refers to 'Pixel/Nexus') good support for a long time.
> You're also wrong about "vastly decreased" performance.
I am not; it is widely documented.
> Apple is kicking Android's ass in this department, that's universally understood.
Did you read what I wrote? Did you comprehend? I haven't been comparing to all Android devices. I never did, never have, in none of my posts. Why would I? I know there are Android vendors who deliver shit support. What I am not saying is that all Android vendors do this. Motorola, for example, when still part of Google delivered good support, and all the examples I previously gave also still count.
> Another distorted lie-response to a claim I didn't make; I didn't say "with security updates". I said full compatibility with the fully-updated software.
Yes, I know you didn't claim that because you're unable to see I am the one who claimed that because your claim was, well, I'll be friendly: "inaccurate". I don't want full software support, I don't give a shit about full software support. I want security and reliability fixes, and, quite frankly it should fall under warranty. Nobody tosses their fridge, car, oven, PC after 2 or 3 years yet in handheld (smartphone/tablet) market this is somewhat normal. We agree there is a problem here, and on average compared to Android, yes Apple does better. At a premium price though.
> Apple is able to push out vital security updates WITHOUT doing a full software update
Yeah, with magic fairy tale patches. Get real. I don't have proof? All the vulnerabilities found and patched lately (good part of 2015, and all of 2016) in iOS 10 are not available in iOS 8: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_8
Nevermind iOS 7 and lower.
Even iOS 9 seems not so good supported anymore: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_9
"Support status Third-party application support only"
Great that means my mother's iPad from 2012 isn't supported anymore. Yeah, great software support...
> Yes, your bias is evident
Pot, meet kettle.
> Tragically what you're missing here is that locked-down nature also makes the devices secure.
My Android phone is not rooted, and I'm talking about locked down in the sense that I am not able to replace the hardware. In the sense that I'm more or less leasing the device since I am not allowed or easily able to get root if I desire. In the sense that an American company is putting their values on me as an European which means: violence is good, sex is bad. Fuck those values, I decide what is good and bad for me, my wife, and my children.
I'd also argue that every phone is fundamentally insecure to nation states if the attacker has physical access.
> You probably have no clue what it actually costs.
I do, I bought an iPhone SE for my mother and had the shop install a screen protector for her. While they were attaching it, I informed how much it'd cost to repair. Like I said, 160 EUR at minimum.