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Ok, but you still haven't shown any numbers regarding deaths and how they compare to America.


Well this will be my last response in playing the "but what about X" whackamole game where someone fires off a one liner and I gather data to create response after response when I've already demonstrated and evidenced the concepts and none of the axioms I've mentioned whose application would've answered that question have been addressed let alone refuted.

I've already spent significant amounts of effort in this thread gathering and summarizing data only to be repeatedly downvoted for bringing hard evidence that challenges the status quo opinion.

The study I've already cited more closely than international comparisons isolates the variable of single payer because it measures the same data points over time using the same methodology in the same country.

Comparing the US and Canada tends to be less reliable in comparison because the properties involved are more fluid, although it's still a useful comparison in some ways. Furthermore, the US healthcare system already has major single payer elements such as Medicare, which would complicate the isolation of the variable.

I just googled "difference in procedure wait times between the united states and canada" and literally every result on the front page supports the longer wait times in Canada that you asked to be shown.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2016-08-...

http://www.factcheck.org/2007/12/comparing-health-care-in-ca...

https://www.amsa.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/WaitingTimes...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_the_healthcare_s...

http://getbetterhealth.com/wait-times-for-medical-care-how-t...

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/06/sunday-review/long-waits-...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2585450/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3633404/

https://books.google.com/books?id=McL2UV9_QGUC&pg=PA176&lpg=...

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/default/files/reducing...


I was specifically addressing your claims about deaths. How many more people die on waiting lists in Canada?




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