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It's really terrifying how much the deep state seems to be unraveling.



The so-called "deep state" is just a Trumpian label for "any bureaucracy once gets in the way of my autocracy."

At best, it's a complete reversal of Hanlon's razor, where witches and commies and whatnot are hiding behind every corner.


The term deep state has been around for a long time. It is the group of non-elected people who exert considerable influence from behind the scenes, and that remain from administration to administration. But whatever you want to call it, it is exactly the deep state that facilitates things like yesterday's $350B arms deal with Saudi Arabia.


The absence of a deep state would be much scarier than the alternative!


I find myself having mixed feelings. Generally, I like the idea that there are people who have many years of experience in various positions at all levels of government. In that way the deep state is wonderful. It would be insanity if everyone at all levels got swapped out every 4 years. At the same time it's the deep state who is responsible for the NSA wire-tapping. It's the deep state who began planning our invasion of Syria in 2006 with Israel and Saudi Arabia, long before the Arab Spring or chemical weapons.

So in some sense I think the deep state could use a bit of a shake-up to hopefully get it back in line with what I believe are American values. At the same time I'm afraid of the short term consequences of this shake-up.


All those trillions of dollars that would need to be spent bettering society instead of .. being spent secretly on who knows what ..


Maybe scarier for you and all the running dogs of US imperialism. The people of countries under semi-colonial and semi-feudal rule may disagree.


On what basis did you assume I was a supporter of US imperialism?

Besides, as far as feudal masters go, the US is despite their colorful history on the more benign end of the cruelty spectrum, which is really saying something about the competition.

Ultimately the regions subjected to American rule would see their conditions deteriorate further if the deep state didn't soften the brutal seesaw motion that inevitably follows the change in leadership.


You went straight from saying, “Don't assume I'm a running dog!” to literally proving that you are a running dog! So cool.


In that case... Woof bark!


please chill out dude


The deep state unraveling has nothing to do with Trump whatsoever and dates back at least as far as the Snowden leaks and cablegate. Well, I guess it does have a little bit to do with Trump since some of the ways it's unraveling include leaks that seem to be intended to harm Trump but so far have proven to lack substance.


Trump is doing arms deals with Saudi Arabia for the military industry, a part of the deep state, as we speak.




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