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When it comes to an accusation, you can't simultaneously believe the victim and clear the defendant of guilt.


We're talking about the action of "believing" a colleague when they come to you with a complaint.

It would not be healthy for anyone involved to actively show skepticism towards them.

If you do not show some level of skepticism, you default to a state of belief. As in, you believe your colleague at face-value for the complaint brought to you.

We're _not_ talking about convicting someone of a crime. We're not talking about taking immediate action on that belief.


>If you do not show some level of skepticism, you default to a state of belief.

Well, no, you default to a neutral state of receiving information, sans judgment.

Also it is not true that if you do not show skepticism, you default to some specific state. You could hold any number of opinions without showing skepticism -- what you are showing the other party is irrelevant. "Showing" or expressing belief is not the same thing as believing.

>As in, you believe your colleague at face-value

If you are pretending that you believe your colleague while silently reserving judgment or judging disbelief, you do not believe them in any meaningful sense of the word. You are disguising your judgment of what they are saying so as to not cause further conflict -- i.e., acting. That is very different from believing what they say or even 'believing at face value'.


Of course you can. You can believe the victim while saying that the evidence doesn't meet whatever bar you set - in criminal matters that would be "beyond all reasonable doubt".

It's fine for people to say "I think he did it, but the prosecution didn't prove it, and so I found him not guilty."


If you believe someone, that means you think what they said is true.

In this mindset you've setup a guilty until proven innocent framework because in your mind you already believe to be true any accusations leveled at someone.

When someone levels an accusation, the only belief you should hold is that it's a serious accusation that needs further investigation because someone has risked a lot by leveling it.

Believing anything that comes out of someone's mouth to be true when there are massive consequences to their words is unethical.

>It's fine for people to say "I think he did it, but the prosecution didn't prove it, and so I found him not guilty."

You cannot believe someone to have done something and personally believe that the person is not guilty. They may not be guilty under the framework of the law, but you are still treating them as guilty in your mind. If you worked with the accused and you had a strong sense of ethics, you would never treat that person the same way again, even though the accusation may have been proven to be fabricated.

It is unethical to take accusations at face value that will ruin people's lives.


100% on-point, but I'd caution about bringing judgement into these matters.

Believing a colleague when they come to you with ANY complaint does not mean you're going to pass judgement, or you even have to. It means listening and doing that in a way that does not discourage future complaints.


> Believing a colleague when they come to you with ANY complaint does not mean you're going to pass judgement, or you even have to. It means listening and doing that in a way that does not discourage future complaints.

Your attitude towards them -- listening etc -- is a completely orthogonal matter to whether you believe in the truth of their claims.

There seems to be this wishy-washy notion of "belief" that's causing confusion in this thread, where "believing" is equated to "not being judgemental".


> You can believe the victim while saying that the evidence doesn't meet whatever bar you set

That's not "belief". Believing X means thinking that X is true. What you're really talking about is taking an agnostic position.




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