If you look at this data you can see there is clear distinction in the types of work chosen on average between the sexes. These choices align nicely with the findings of personality research between the sexes.
It's seems such a cliche to say "Sure, sexism exists to one degree or another." But okay, I can agree.
The problem is when you pick some particular gap and say this gap is a problem because the main cause is sexism.
Doing this is a problem not just because it ignores many other relevant factors, but because when proclaiming the cause as mostly sexism you are then accusing many people of something of which they are innocent.
You're unjustly maligning many people when you do this.
What evidence would be sufficient to convince you that the divergence in sex ratios of fields like nursing & elementary teaching compared to engineering and more theoretical pursuits comes down to personality differences between the average man and woman, and not sexism?
In regards to your concerns about the status quo of the tech industry or any other and sexism therein, individual cases should be dealt with appropriately. Individuals should act responsibly and respectfully.
I thought one the guiding principles for people these days was you shouldn't treat members in a group in a way that is informed by the actions or characteristics of other members of the group.
> If you look at this data you can see there is clear distinction in the types of work chosen on average between the sexes. These choices align nicely with the findings of personality research between the sexes.
I am not disputing this at all.
> It's seems such a cliche to say "Sure, sexism exists to one degree or another." But okay, I can agree.
Okay, we've found some common ground here. Let's go a little further. "The tech industry has a problem with sexual harassment and sexist treatment towards women." Agree or disagree?
> The problem is when you pick some particular gap and say this gap is a problem because the main cause is sexism.
Except I did not say either of those things.
> Doing this is a problem not just because it ignores many other relevant factors, but because when proclaiming the cause as mostly sexism you are then accusing many people of something of which they are innocent.
> You're unjustly maligning many people when you do this.
Please stop putting words in my mouth. Thanks.
> What evidence would be sufficient to convince you that the divergence in sex ratios of fields like nursing & elementary teaching compared to engineering and more theoretical pursuits comes down to personality differences between the average man and woman, and not sexism?
You don't need to convince me of this because I am not disputing it. I am disputing the idea that sexism has no role to play, however.
> In regards to your concerns about the status quo of the tech industry or any other and sexism therein, individual cases should be dealt with appropriately. Individuals should act responsibly and respectfully.
That is a great platitude however it does not seem to be helping very much as we (as an industry) seem quite content to perpetuate the status quo.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/03/06/chart-the-perce...
If you look at this data you can see there is clear distinction in the types of work chosen on average between the sexes. These choices align nicely with the findings of personality research between the sexes.
It's seems such a cliche to say "Sure, sexism exists to one degree or another." But okay, I can agree.
The problem is when you pick some particular gap and say this gap is a problem because the main cause is sexism.
Doing this is a problem not just because it ignores many other relevant factors, but because when proclaiming the cause as mostly sexism you are then accusing many people of something of which they are innocent.
You're unjustly maligning many people when you do this.
What evidence would be sufficient to convince you that the divergence in sex ratios of fields like nursing & elementary teaching compared to engineering and more theoretical pursuits comes down to personality differences between the average man and woman, and not sexism?
In regards to your concerns about the status quo of the tech industry or any other and sexism therein, individual cases should be dealt with appropriately. Individuals should act responsibly and respectfully.
I thought one the guiding principles for people these days was you shouldn't treat members in a group in a way that is informed by the actions or characteristics of other members of the group.