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>> Linux? Destroyed >> Mac desktop platform? Gone. These two have what, 6% of the personal computer OS market?

>> MSIE? Dominates the world.

IE did dominate the world. Remember Netscape? IE was at like 90% in the early 2000's until Firefox showed up.

>> Java? Completely unknown

Never made much of an impact on the desktop. What's the most widely used Java desktop app? Was there ever one? Eclipse/Netbeans comes to mind.



> IE did dominate the world

For a brief period. So did many other short-term phenomena, from BASIC to MS Access to Clipper to Pacman. And now they are stuff for the museums. Except for Pacman, of course.

> Never made much of an impact on the desktop

So? It still survived competition with Microsoft - and, arguably, won on every platform except Windows, non-Windows .net use is still basically zero and Linux rules server world, so...

> What's the most widely used Java desktop app?

I honestly have no idea. Well, Eclipse of course, IntelliJ suite of tools, probably, but it could be some other apps are Java too and I just don't know it. The point is Java is alive and well despite competition from mighty invincible Microsoft.


does minecraft count


> What's the most widely used Java desktop app? Was there ever one? Eclipse/Netbeans comes to mind.

Ironic, because these are just Java IDEs.


Eclipse is way more than just Java IDE. In fact, I've been using Eclipse for many years for a number of purposes, and 80% of that time - not as Java IDE.




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