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Good point about this service, I almost forgot that it still exists (although reception is somewhat spotty indoors). The basic advice is sane ("do not rely on side effects"), yet "third-party systems provided free of charge and without obligation" sounds exactly like that, except now it's putting all your eggs in a basket that's controlled by one entity (be it DCF77, or the GPS temporal component). I would think that the AC-as-a-clock is usually chosen for convenience rather than high reliability - "the juice is needed anyway, why bother with an extra receiver?" - and if you actually need to tell the time, checking multiple independent sources would be encouraged :)


DCF77 surely cannot be that bad indoors on the Continent?

When living at what was then often quoted as the extreme fringe of the coverage area - Trondheim, Norway, on 63,5 degrees of latitude - I had reliable coverage as long as the clocks were kept in window sills (hence, effectively outdoors)

However, just moving down to my current home (on 62 degrees, or -roughly speaking- 11% closer to the transmitter site), I now have reliable coverage everywhere (granted, in a wooden house - but the DCF77 alarm clock in the basement synchs every hour, too)


I've found that antenna orientation matters, even in the Netherlands which is much closer to DCF77 (concrete house).


Citizen, the Japanese watches maker, offered a passive (without batteries) "enhancer" for their AT series, IIRC was a ferrite block where to put the watch, I think I've seen a photo.

Or one can use a PC to transmit the DCF77 signal locally (it could be illegal) to a clock using a pair of headphones, I've seen at least a couple of examples but never tried them.

Edit: found the photo http://forums.watchuseek.com/f17/possible-method-improve-ato...


Yes, it needs to be perpendicular to the direction of frankfurt for best results

You can find more details in the second page of this datasheet

https://www.gemischtwaren-haendler.de/shopdateien/3942_1.pdf


More importantly, you would need to know how the antenna is oriented within the enclosure of your clock. I'm pretty sure that that wasn't mentioned in the manual of the one I bought.


Most clocks are thin, so it's easier to guess the placement of the antenna.


Usually the antenna is parallel to the board - and the board is positioned in the largest dimension, which tends to be also parallel with the display.


Beats me - I'm within reasonable driving distance to the antenna (one border away), yet clocks fail to acquire signal unless outdoors/directly at a window. Just a bad coverage area, I guess.


>11% closer to the transmitter site

This is completely outside of my area of expertise, but doesn't the radio signal strength decrease exponentially? So that last 11% could be a big deal?


Inverse square, so you're in the vicinity of being correct: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law


Quadratically.

Line-of-sight attenuation of an EM wave in the empty space is quadratical, whilst - for example - attenuation of an electrical signal in a wire is exponential.

Obviously this is a super simplification...


Oh, that makes sense. Thanks for your explanation, good enough for now :)




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