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'Security' is some kind of religion in tech circles. I don't know if it is just that risk analysis isn't part of your standard tech education, or if they think it makes them look cool to talk about always using 200 character hardware-RNG generated passphrases when ordering pizza online, or what exactly, but they're everywhere.


Yeah some people I know go OTT and use password managers for everything. To the point that they don't trust any cloud based ones so if they want to log in to something and they haven't got an up-to-date copy of their password manager db on them, they can't.

My system is two or three "disposable" passwords I use on low reputation sites or sites where I don't care about breaches. I don't care about people knowing it either, if someone asks and I trust them I'll more often than not tell them what it is. Services where compromise would actually affect me get stronger passwords: my Google and Amazon passwords semi-random generated, but sticks to a format so I change parts of it and never forget it, and I check to make sure it's not in breaches every now and again. I use variations of it for my bank, medical stuff, etc where a breach could actually have implications for me.


Seconded

The usual cargo-cult thinking usually ends up with someone leaving their 1024 bit secret key under the doormat, or worrying too much about nation states hacking your routers instead of worrying about Bob clicking a suspicious link.


How many seconds have you, GP, and a couple of other commenters in this subthread devoted to thinking that maybe people who use password managers for everything find it not merely secure but also convenient?

I don't know about you but I don't like having to remember passwords. But people here can feel free to impress everyone with their memorized password they use on pizzahut.com, right up until they find out that they reused it somewhere important they totally forgot about because they don't have a convenient database of all the websites they have an account on.

Seriously, this counter-culture of being proud to have shitty passwords is the same mindset that makes antivax and climate science deniers a thing. You want to reuse shitty passwords, nobody is stopping you (I've certainly done it), but don't be proud of it and don't shit on people who care more than you.


I'm not talking about password managers (in this case)

You should worry about strong passwords, but the point is moot if the rest of the system has other major flaws.

See: people who have their security answer as a long hex string, and customer service doesn't check the digits.


It's hard to tell what security answers are used for when you're writing it in. If it's for use with customer support, it should probably be something like "CSR IMPORTANT: DO NOT ACCEPT VAGUE ANSWERS 309c91b10edb2"


Good idea! Yeah it's usually for CS and id verification.

(It's also a good idea to, if you use correct answers, to not leave them on Fb or other places)




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