You're aware that both European languages and Sanskrit have a common ancestor, Proto-Indo-European? That's how you find identical wordstems like "Pa" for father in both (if I remember the example correctly). Something as basic as soup would be easy to imagine going back to PIE no?
So if you don’t accept PIE, what‘s the model you accept? Did Indian and European peoples migrate out of Africa separately according to your model? Using languages to analyze this is indeed a crude tool, but we have something better now: DNA evidence. And so far I at least never heard of DNA being used to disproof the Indo-European relationship, as opposed to some other hypothetical proto-people like Finno-Ugric-Mongolian-Korean-Japanese, whathever the name for that was.
You seem to be a bit emotionally attached to this? I for one like imagining that such a vast and diverse bunch of peoples may go back to just a couple of families crossing deserts, jungles and plains together.
how europeans got their language is not our problem
neither the yamnaya r1b z2103 nor sintashta r1a z2125 amounted to much in world history and the sintashtans were just scythians or what we called shakas
these geneticists are just looking for keys under the streetlight ignoring actual evidence
rest of the dna debate is massively hyped propaganda and search for relevance and funding
Soup as a dish, or the etymology of the word "soup"? Because soup as a dish predates recorded history certainly[1] (evidence found for it as far back as 20,0000 BC) but possibly even the modern human species. And if the dish is that old and universal, every culture would have its own name for it. "supa" and "soup" sounding similar is probably just a coincidence.
ctrl f supa in the link above i believe the dish described is basically the same
and the arthashastra in any case outclasses all other attestations even if you take western dating
the pushback on this etymology is seemingly more than even for the word cash which is also an indian word but the english would even prefer to credit the french for it than indians
french caisse is a tangential link at best while tamil cash is actually cash and got printed on coins as such and derives from sanskrit karsha a measure of weight also attested in arthashastra and so of similar age
> i believe the dish described is basically the same
"Basically the same" as what? "Soup" is a very broad term encompassing many, many dishes.
> and the arthashastra in any case outclasses all other attestations even if you take western dating
The Arthashastra is supposedly from the 2nd century BCE[1], but even if it's as old as Sanskrit itself[2], it still comes at least 15,000 years after the first evidence of soup. Soup is older than any language that's known today. Why would other cultures suddenly start using a Sanskrit word for a food that they've known and enjoyed for thousands of years?
Genetic evidence suggests that rice was cultivated in Southeast Asia (Yangtze River Valley). See https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3101000/. So, its true linguistic origin may still be something upstream.
> in any case the chinese word is mi and has no linguistic relation to the word rice
I'm not suggesting a Chinese origin of the word. But I suspect this may not be the final answer. First, the Mandarin Chinese pronunciation of the character "mi" (rice) today may not be the same as what it was pronounced 10,000 years ago. Second, people who lived in the Yangtze River Valley back then might not be speaking a Sinitic language. They might be speaking a Kra-Tai language.
> just search for how old is indian agriculture on your fave search engine
Pretty sure there were multiple origins of agriculture (e.g., Mesopotamia and Levant among others). It is difficult to argue which place came up with agriculture first.
ok but postulating chinese called it rice first and then switched to mi but rest of world kept it as rice is a stretch
rice entered europe as oryza not all that long ago and the link to tamil arici is straightforward and heavy trade existed between rome and india such that we keep finding hoards of roman era coins in india
romans were even complaining of a trade deficit with indians and emptying of their treasury
> Internet and satellite communication had existed in the days of Mahabharata. How could Sanjaya (the charioteer of King Dhritarashtra in the epic) give a detailed account and description to the blind king about the battle of Kurukshetra? It means internet was there, the satellites and that technology was there in this country at that time”
> Mr Deb said that while European nations and the United States may claim to have invented the internet, the technology mostly began in India and was built by its people.
> "Internet and satellite system had existed in India lakhs of years ago. The richest culture belongs to our nation and I feel proud of it"
soup is from sanskrit supa attested in arthashastra of kautilya dated to 1st millennium BC by westerners and 2nd millennium BC by indians
see link for specific quote from the text: http://www.alexmthomas.com/2016/05/22/a-review-of-trautmanns...