Same here.

When the new macbook with 10nm Intel comes out. I am seriously considering looking up Louis Rossmann and commissioning him to put the guts of that machine into the old 2012 chassis and seeing if it would work and if it doesn't, what would it take to make it work...

Crazy I know. But Apple just isn't listening to people like us because there are people out there that buy the latest and surf all day lol.

My 2012 is just going great. With every OS upgrade the machine has just been better and better. For my dev workload and the amount of hours I am on it. This has been the best investment I ever made. This thing is an utter work horse and I have zero problems with it. Really happy.

I hate the butterfly keyboard and new each revision. Really, with a passion.

I'm currently on a rMPB 15 2012 with OSX Sierra, so 2 OSX versions behind Mojave, and a bit reluctant to upgrade out of the assumption that the old it gets, the lower the amount of QA attention it will receive from Apple.

I guess I should just bite the bullet and upgrade OSX to the latest?

I hear you. I skipped Sierra and High Sierra. But when Mojave came out, I bit the bullet.

Since upgrading in early Jan. I haven't had an issue.

Absolutely. Give me a killer battery, great thermal performance, and a wonderful keyboard. I'd gladly sacrifice a few millimeters of thinness for an allegedly "pro" model.

I saw that Apple was selling some leftover iPhone SEs the other day and I nearly grabbed one, but it still has the 6s guts. If they brought the newer chips into the SE shell, I would absolutely replace my X with that.

Honest question, but how much would you pay for this model? $7000 USD?

Make it full-on 2019 state of the art specs and I would.

My 2012 still works great. If I could expect that kind of life, 7k for that makes it seem like a bargain over the current lot.

Same here, This thing doesn’t show any signs of breaking down. I chalk it up mostly to the ssd instead of a spinning disk which always seemed to be the part that wore out on my previous machines.

Where do you get $7K?

It really seems like Apple could stop over engineering their hardware, add some ports, maybe make it a mm or two thicker, add up to a pound in weight, and still have a 5 pound 15" professional work horse?

I just made up the $7k, but the OP mentioned he'd be willing to pay more for that, I already think the MBPs are overpriced so I was curious how much more he'd be willing to pay for a functional laptop again. I wasn't being snarky and it was a real question. How much would an Apple user be willing to pay for a laptop that had what they wanted in it.

Just because they happen to be an Apple user doesn't mean their status as an Apple user is relevant to your inquiry.

I'd pay quite a lot to have an optimal laptop. But last time I went laptop shopping, Apple was the only one offering a non-touchscreen, metal bodied, unix-like environment with a reasonable keyboard layout. I have no loyalty to Apple (I've only ever purchased a 2015 MBP from them) but everything else I could find in stores at the time had nothing I wanted, and a lot of what I didn't want (Windows 10, touchscreen) I would have to pay for and remove/ignore anyway. I would pay a lot for a good laptop precisely because the process of finding a laptop that I'll feel good about buying is so difficult these days.

> Just because they happen to be an Apple user doesn't mean their status as an Apple user is relevant to your inquiry.

Sure it does, the OP I was replying to is already an Apple user and said he'd be willing to pay more. He is already paying a premium price, so the question of how much more premium is he willing to go has everything to do with him/her being an Apple user.