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> Half an hour passing security and waiting for boarding

Only 30 minutes sounds optimistic. You also didn't count the time to recover luggage. I've seen people bringing huge suitcases on high speed trains. They couldn't take them in cabin on a flight. Planes are good past the 2 hours flight time IMHO, or across countries where there are no interconnected high speed networks (I'm writing this with Europe in mind.)




My experience with heavy luggage on the French TVG was positive and so efficient Il Duce would be jealous.

My ticket told me where to stand on the platform. When the train pulled to a precise location, I did not have to move any distance. One door for boarding, one for deboarding, passengers did not bump or block each other. Luggage storage located immediately inside train, pass a sliding door to my assigned seat.

The train seemed to stop for less than a minute, we were moving before I took my seat.

No security in boarding station (Morliax), a little over 3 hrs to Paris, 450km as the crow flies.

Perhaps our French colleagues could chime in and let us know if this is a typical experience.

Baggage security in France and other EU countries is quite efficient, not everyone carries bags.


I used to live a 7 minute taxi from Manchester airport. I would usually aim to arrive 30 minutes before wheelsup. It it took longer than 5 minutes from taxi to boarding it was unusual.

In the rare occasions I checked luggage I'd arrive about t-45 and have a beer in the lounge.

Never missed a flight. To get to west london it was far faster than the train and tube, although most of the time I was changing at Heathrow onto a longer distance flight.


And your children will hate you for it.

(i.e. the climate.)




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