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you won't be seeing me on one of them until it gets a new type rating


I fly at least once a month. I'll be avoiding MAX until agencies other than the FAA recertify the plane. FAA cannot be trusted because of regulatory capture so I won't take their word over this anytime soon.


I imagine it would still be more dangerous to drive to the airport than it would be to fly on a 737 Max.


Note sure about that. Only around 350 737 Max 8's had been delivered by the time of the second crash.

How many models of car have a 1 in 175 total loss rate?


Why muddy the waters by comparing apples (airplanes) to oranges (cars)? The loss rate of other aircraft models is what's relevant.


I don't think it's the loss rate of 737 Max vs other models that is what's relevant either. I said safety of driving to an airport vs flying in a 737 Max. We have to get total number of passenger hours/miles for both methods of transportation and compare those with deaths. I'm not sure if those numbers specifically for the 737 Max are available.


literally the comment before:

> it would still be more dangerous to drive to the airport than it would be to fly on a 737 Max

context is relevant in a discussion.


True, but because the FAA has (historically) done an excellent job on airline safety, people expect zero risk from air travel. Everybody knows cars are dangerous (at least in principle, even if they think they personally will never be in a crash).


>True, but because the FAA has (historically) done an excellent job on airline safety

Historically, yes, but within the last decade or less it's all gone to pot.

Detroit used to be a great city with a booming economy. Not now.


I wonder how much of the apprehension is because dying in an airplane is more likely to come with a longer period of being terrified before impact. I suppose, for some reason, not offset by a higher likelihood of suffering after impact in a car.


Unfortunately people die all the time. Whether it's through the extremely rare passenger aicraft, the more common car crash, or through violence or poor health choices. I think most people have an irrational fear of death. I don't want to die, but it happens, and when you least expect it. I try to mitigate that by being safe, but a meteor could fall out of the sky on my head any time. It's natural and the only thing garunteed in life.




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