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> Because this is mostly not about security

In my view, it is absolutely about security, and much more broad than "spying."

China is absolutely an adversary of the USA. If you give your adversary control of a national asset such as the entire wireless network, then you are a fool. I am no fan of Trump, but holy crap did we allow our security interests to get dominated by business interests in the past.

One great example is that for unknown reasons, we allow Chinese POPs in Canada, however there is certainly no western POPs allowed in China. Here is a story about Canada-to-Canada data being routed through China via a Chinese POP. [0] I remember it being discuss on HN, but now I can't find it.

[0]https://toronto.citynews.ca/2019/01/31/israeli-cyberexpert-d...



China is an adversary? Tell me this when Apple packs up and leaves China for good. And Google stops seeing China as a market. And ...

Multi-national corporations are what they are because they have no loyalty to any country. Profit is the god they worship. Giving our national assets to any multi-national corporation is foolishness.


Well I guess its a good thing that Apple is selling less and less phones anyways before this trade war™ mess, might make it easier to leave, their new product is selling credit!


> China is an adversary? Tell me this when Apple packs up and leaves China for good.

Are you not able to separate a nation's business interests from its national security interests? Can you not imagine how the two could easily be in conflict? I am truly dumbfounded by this view. I don't even know where to begin.


If I support your opinion, I should also support China gov had done before for Google and others.




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