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People got confused and started thinking there was something virtuous about not having kids.

Which, in my opinion, is one of the most anti-human sentiments that you could construct.

In a weird way, one could make an abstract argument that choosing not to have kids has an element in common with murder. It’s reducing the amount of lived human life.

Regardless, on a practical level we are seeing non-replacement birthrate in advanced countries ... and people are complaining about it ... while making parenting as unpleasant as we can possibly imagine ...

This is also part of the same philosophy, but turned sideways. Instead of viewing children as a resource they are viewed as a huge obligation, and we seem to feel a little guilty about bringing them in to the world.

It’s fascinating.




> People got confused and started thinking there was something virtuous about not having kids.

It's simple resource management really. We have three alternatives: 1. Keep multiplying, keep our lifestyles and fuck the planet until it's unhabitable, 2. Keep multiplying but drastically reduce our impact on the planet by rationing ourselves, 3. decrease the multiplication rate so that at some point we can sustain our lifestyle while not fucking the planet up.

I can't see how wanting all humans to live decently is anti-human. Until we have good enough confidence that future humans will live decently, spawning new ones is risky, and spawning so many that our numbers keep increasing is just reckless.

Are you familiar with "The Repugnant Conclusion"? https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/repugnant-conclusion/


> In a weird way, one could make an abstract argument that choosing not to have kids has an element in common with murder. It’s reducing the amount of lived human life.

So is not spending every waking moment (and every sleeping moment, where possible) having as many kids as you can.

I can see the slogans now: "Abstinence is murder", "Contraception is murder", "Save a life: fuck!".


> People got confused and started thinking there was something virtuous about not having kids.

Bringing people into a world that's going to be destroyed fairly within their lifetime because we can't get over the profit motive to save the climate is completely immoral.




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