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>If you've already been in the industry a while you'll probably suffer from the same problem: A hell of a lot of low quality recruiter spam; Bad companies wasting your time with sub-minimum wage offers, and so on. Sometimes you just need 10 minutes to speak to a real person and you can both tell straight away if it's a good fit or not.

As a noob I would just like to say...it isn't limited to experienced professionals.

As soon as I landed my first job my email and linkedin caught fire. Non stop spam, bad matches, and etc.

"I was looking at your resume..."

No way you were looking at my resume and came up with this job... kinda stuff.



We get TONS of people that apply to our jobs with shotgun strategy... Really annoying looking for an experienced Linux admin and we have to review a fresh college grad with no Linux or Mac experience and one year of java programming. HR policies require us to be fair to all applicants, so our panel had to spend 15 minutes recovering the application and highlighting why they do not meet 9 of the 10 required qualifications.

This is mostly because it system makes it easy to apply to multiple listings, so people upload their information then click 2-3 times to apply to each job.

So, compared to getting a whole lot of those, or "I can find someone for you" responses, I can see why people have more luck reaching out to a community of people with the rough skill set


When in comes to the hiring threads, I seldom see Linux sysadmin jobs. Everyone wants a Pyton/GoLang/Java developer. I do most of my coding in Bash and Ruby (Puppet), and write json or yaml config files. It seems that a lot of the people looking for "DevOps" are looking for developers who can use Jenkins and Docker, not serious operations people who can work with dev in the same team to make a high availability and performant product.


> Really annoying looking for an experienced Linux admin and we have to review a fresh college grad with no Linux or Mac experience and one year of java programming.

It's not your fault, but the industry has relatively few entry-level positions, especially for the bottom 75% of graduates.


I personally support 3 entry level Linux admins / clouds engineers under me (1 well paid intern, 2 full time)

One was in college, one fresh grad 2-year degree, one with degree and 1 year experience.

But I need someone who's actually better than me to help with weird issues that you simply don't get in school... Like adjusting the DNS resolver process.. or dining out why gnome won't start in a virtual infrastructure (which most people don't even know where to start looking in logs)

So I'm very open to entry level people, but I need another experience person to help


I've found that you seldom get any deep level Linux admin training in schools. They all teach fundamentals, the seven layer cake^W OSI model, how http works, stuff like that. If you're lucky, they cover /var/log/messages, a few basic commands, then dive deep into stack traces or something else programmer-centric. Then again, I'm mostly self taught and have 10+ years experience. BTW, debugging Docker just sucks. I'm looking for better tools for that.


It's funny how that works.

People get people who aren't right for the job applying.

Recruiters out there gathering up people not qualified.

throws up hands


That is why I deleted my linkedin profile years ago.




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