I wonder how many people on HN are like me; no STEM background, no fancy degrees, no fancy qualifications, and thus don't even open either variety of thread because we're pretty confident we will never find listings in the one variety we are remotely qualified for and know that it is extremely unlikely anyone will want to hire us from the other variety.

Then factor in people also like me in Indy, that do not live anywhere near the bay area or other large tech center and have no interest whatsoever in relocating.