Personal attacks, which you leapt into there, are not allowed on HN. Please don't post like this again. Please don't break this guideline either: "Eschew flamebait. Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents."
Hello dang, bringing up CCP concentration camps on a public forum is not flame bait, unless you are trying to hide their existence on an American website.
However there was an antagonistic tone which I won't repeat.
It certainly is flamebait when you bring in an inflammatory and divisive topic into a thread like that. Doubly so after trawling through another account's history in order to find something to attack them with. Please don't do these things in HN threads again.
The only way Chinese concentration camps are "divisive" is if there are many people who are very pro Chinese concentration camps, and are offended when I refer to them in a negative way. Or, I shouldn't be discussing them at all. Is that what you found to be inflammatory? Bringing up something that is happening?
I already apologized for an antagonistic tone, I won't for pointing out documented history.
Sigh. Straw man. Actually I'm a student of ancient history and have many concerns about China, but love living here as it's a fascinating place and a great environment for hardware technology development, macro-level progressive, plus if you place any credence in Musk a glimpse of the future. The point is, if you look at any long living empire, saber-rattling doesn't expand as fast or leave the same legacy as cultural expansion and integration. China's got the upper hand there. One should view B&R as a diplomatic move toward influence expansion. Whereas, I've read that US's stated goal is to be viewed as an irrational military actor as a 'force multiplier', with rapid global military strike capability. US imprisons a huge percentage of its population, China just shoot them. Neither are great options. Of course, if the world were to adopt a scientifically supported penal strategy of rehab like Scandinavia, we could be happy little capers on one big open sandwich. Then get eaten.
I really think China is the future, very impressive. - Elon Musk (2019)
Benefiting from a system of oppression that kills people isn't a straw man, it's the entire point.
> US imprisons a huge percentage of its population, China just shoot them.
I can't tell if this is moral equivalence or simply ignorance of what China is actually doing to its population. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and conclude you think US prisons arresting non-violent drug offenders to 3 years in prison is the same as kidnapping/torturing and disappearing an entire ethnicity.
I think you have come to that understanding by knowing you depend on the status quo in China for your own personal wealth, not unlike many Han Chinese. And that makes me sad.
> I really think China is the future, very impressive. - Elon Musk (2019)
This means nothing, every large investor kisses up to the gatekeepers of a growing market. Every single one.
