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> I'd love 6 weeks of paid vacation as much as anyone. I don't see us getting that. I'd love to make twice as much money. I don't see that happening. I'd love for promotions and hiring to be more fair / better, but I don't see how this accomplishes that (nor do I know anyway to improve it).

Not at Google so I can't comment about them directly.

Also very neutral on unions, so don't take this comment as my preference.

6 weeks may seem hard to get, but many companies offer only 2 weeks, and 3 weeks seems the norm. 4 weeks seems doable with a union (although it may not be necessary - more and more companies are offering 4 weeks).

Non-compete clauses are something unions can help with (I know they're not allowed in CA, but lots of other states allow them).

The amount of time or how often one is on-call can be something unions can help with.

Conditions for severance can be something unions can help with.

On the flip side, unions can also make things a lot worse. YMMV.



I'm in the UK. Currently have 25 days of paid holidays + 8 bank holidays. I believe this is a bare minimum one needs in order to maintain straight head and not go mad. I appreciate that's not something most people get across the pond, however I do see absolutely zero reasons,why this couldn't be the case over there as well. However,many heads had to roll and tons of blood was spilled in most European countries for these things to become a norm.


Maybe the problem is job hopping. I got 5 weeks after being with the employer for a decade. I might be close to getting 6 weeks.




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