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I question the value of letting people like James Damore and Jordan Peterson speak on such a big platform.

Edit: The people downvoting me are hypocrites. The function of downvoting to make something less visible. Are you saying what I say has less value and should therefore have a lesser platform?

But to be serious, everyone acknowledges that what some people say is of more value than what other people say, and should be seen by more people. We just disagree on what the things that have value are. And your insistence on arguing about the former, rather than the latter is tiresome and dishonest.



Yes, we should selectively filter people whose ideas we don't like from being able to speak them to any audience. In fact I question the value of letting people like <person whose ideas you value> speak on such a big platform.

/s

Surely you understand that what you're suggesting here is totalitarian? The value you mention is the strengthening of a society where freedom of ideas is considered a core value.


Your "totalitarian" remark is such a shameless misrepresentation of what the person you're talking to is saying that you might as well be talking to yourself.


It's not totalitarian at all. I'm not advocating not letting them speak. I'm saying what they say has no (or negative) value.


I noticed you called out both Jordan Peterson and James Demore. So I'd guess you're a radical leftist with some kind of funny gender agenda. I find that just as distasteful as white supremacists on the far right.

Unlike you though, I think freedom of speech trumps everything. You should be free to espouse your unfortunate views, as should everyone else. When you deny a voice to people you just drive the thinking underground where they get stuck in an echo chamber like Nchan with no moderating or criticizing voices. That's the real danger.

I'd much rather have neo-nazis giving talks at universities where people won't take them seriously, boo them, and debate them than escalating in an 8chan echo chamber until someone does something radical like a mass shooting.

This is me pushing back against your ideology and hopefully providing a small check to the certainty with which you hold your views. Slightly more productive than trying to silence you.


What's wrong with Jordan Peterson? I think he's vastly misrepresented.


All he has done is repackage some pretty basic self-help advice into a gross right-wing ideology. I don't think this has any value.


I strongly disagree. Have you actually watched his lectures, read his books, and formed your own opinion?


I'm sorry, where is the right wing ideology exactly? He's pretty passionate about his criticisms of the far left. That doesn't automatically make him right wing. Most of his views are more left than right.


>I'm sorry

You should be.


I have an open mind, show me the right wing ideology with some sources and I'll take your side.




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