Does it have a range more than 234? The 2012 Model S had a range of 265 miles.

One of the biggest problems for most people about EV adoption is range. No one really beats Tesla on this datapoint just yet. Not Jaguar, not VW, not Mercedes, and not Porsche. VW's ID.3 should beat that, but it won't even be released in the US and isn't out until the middle to end of this year.

There are some good EVs that can compete with Tesla's range. The Hyundai Kona has a range of 258 miles and the Chevy Bolt has a range of 238-258, depending on if you get the 2019 or 2020 model.

I own a Bolt in Maine and absolutely love it.

My 2018 Model 3 LR AWD has a range of 310 miles. That Bolt is not really competing with current Tesla models. I’m all for more EVs, but find it disheartening to know that in 2019 and 2020, existing manufacturers are barely competing with the 2012 model S on range.

Your Model 3 also cost ~$15k more than my bolt. Possibly even more since I was able to get out the door for $25k before taxes and ~$2k tax refund.

The Tesla competitor to the Bolt is not the Model 3 Long Range, it is the Model 3 SR with ~250 miles of range. The 2020 Bolt beats the Model 3 SR in terms of both range and price.

> I was able to get out the door for $25k before taxes and ~$2k tax refund

MSRP on the 2020 bolt is $36,620. How were you were able to talk them down $10k on the price?

I honestly don't know. I got a 2019 at the end of this year right before the 2020's were released. I had found a couple decent deals on Hyundai Konas, which still have the full federal tax credit, and when I pointed this out to the Chevy dealer they came back with a significant amount of dealer cash back.

In the end I got $9k off from the dealer and $2k off from a Maine-exclusive tax credit that is related to VW's emissions fraud settlement.

I think I just got really lucky.

I wish I could upvote you again. Your response was really good and exactly what I wanted to know. I have no idea why you're being downvoted. :(

Thanks for the sentiment. I assume it has something to do with speaking favorably about an EV vehicle that isn't a Tesla while in a Tesla thread.

The super charger network is the real Tesla range story, IMO. My Model 3 gets nowhere near the quoted range but I’m fairly confident there’ll be a supercharger en route to my common long distance destinations. In the UK at least, other charge networks are too unreliable.

> Does it have a range more than 234? The 2012 Model S had a range of 265 miles.

I assume you're talking about EPA range, which in and of itself is problematic. The 2019 I-PACE is not comparable to the 2012 Model S. It's comparable to the 2019 Model X.

That said, recent software tweaks that Jaguar has made put its range at over 250 miles. This is even with Jaguar holding back a portion of the battery pack to prevent premature degradation. Comparing Jaguar's 2019 EV to its equivalent (class and price) 2019 EV from Tesla, it has more range.