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> Normally one would give the benefit of the doubt, but given the abhorrent acts people were perpetrating or turning a blind eye to in this case, I'm inclined not to.

I think this is a dangerous way to look at things... Just because there's a lot of shady people doing awful things, doesn't mean we should tar everyone who associated with the person.

Whatever other things happened with other people doesn't really matter. Instead we should look at the facts for each case (visited Epstein's island where bad things had happened, and accepted money from Epstein in an unusual way).



> I think this is a dangerous way to look at things

That's a fair point. I should have said "while a small technical oversight such as stating 'he went for lunch' as a fact (absent proof) would normally not be worth highlighting, the facts of this case make me feel that even such small technical oversights should be avoided or highlighted when they occur."

By "the facts of this case" I mean the facts that 1) Epstein appears to have been guilty of trafficking many underage girls and directing them to have sex with friends or business partners of his and 2) this guy who had other inappropriate/unethical dealings with Epstein went to his island, for a few hours.

Basically I'm saying they should just say "This friend of Epstein made a 3 hour visit to him on pedophile island" which are the only known facts. Not saying he did anything, but neither should the report claim he didn't unless they have evidence. Just stick to the facts.


seriously.

When I was young I used to wonder how in the hell the Salem Witch Trials ever happened. It boggled my mind.

I don't wonder about how it happened anymore, I've seen it so many times it's old hat now.

I mean what next, anyone who takes a jet with Bill Clinton is having sex with an intern?


Yes, imagine thinking that people who rode on a jet where children were routinely raped, or who associated with a man convicted of soliciting underaged girls for prostitution, might have been involved or known about it themselves! It's exactly the same thing as 17th century hysterics who believed women were possessed by literal demons.


> I think this is a dangerous way to look at things...

When I'm walking through my hometown and the tall grass next to me shakes, I think it's a rabbit or a dog or something. When I'm on the African plains in lion country and see the same thing, I think it's a lion. Bad association begets cynical assumption, because it's more often correct than incorrect.


Thankfully the founders of the US knew the difference between judging what is in the grass and judging a person’s actions.


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> It just came out that Comey's daughter was responsible for the deleted tapes from the prison FFS...

what?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51053205

no sir, that's not even wrong. take your conspiracy theories somewhere else.


It just came out where precisely that comeys daughter erased the tapes?


"some people are saying"


Some people are saying that the safest place to deposit your paycheck is into my account! Great returns guaranteed. Which is to say that I will return to an island getaway and it will be great... for me.




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