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This is either Nobel Prize material or total bullshit. Which is it?

This could be a huge breakthrough in quantum computing. Or it could just be a capacitor with delusions of grandeur. Don't know.




Why? You don't understand what it is, so we must pick one from your false dichotomy? This dismissive and derogatory attitude of "if it's not Nobel Prize level, it's bullshit" is one of the root problems with regards to public perception of science: when some people don't have a clue about the science, they turn to "pageant" committees to tell them what is good science, and from there extrapolate that everything else should be "bullshit" (and it's funny to remember that special/general relativity is "bullshit" by your "measure" as it never got Nobel either, which is mostly a "politically" cherry-picked prize). There's a lot of good scientific progress which don't have the blessing of some fancy authority committee, and you can't simply label them as total bullshit just when you don't even understand the importance of their work (and nonetheless astonishingly call it "just a capacitor with delusions of grandeur").

Anyway, it's neither. It's the experimental demonstration of an incremental improvement in silicon quantum dots. The idea is basically that instead of loading a single electron to a quantum dot and using its spin as the qubit, loading more electrons can actually lead to better coherence times (=higher fidelities) due to an increased resilience to charge noise (one of the most significant source of errors in these devices), and one can still use the spin of an "outer shell" (in analogy with atoms) as qubit.


Have all novel qubits gotten nobel prizes so far?

I think there's more than enough room in between bullshit and nobel prize.

This looks very promising, but as always the devil is in the details. The next steps are multiqubit gates, then linking those up into useful quantum circuits, and then hopefully doing actual quantum computations.

Personally I wouldn't expect a nobel prize until one of those last 2 steps. There's a lot of hurdles before then to run into some nasty problems.


lol, nah.

I did my own PhD thesis a couple years ago on donor atoms in silicon, specifically selenium, forming hydrogen and helium like systems that "could" have been useful for forming a qbit. tldr selenium has 2 more valence electrons than silicon so when it is substitutionally doped into silicon then you get a helium like system, which in some cases ends up hydrogen like when, presumably, imperfections either local or remote cause enough disruption to whisk away/capture one of the electrons, thus forming a hydrogen like system. I didn't investigate the cause of the different molecular like complexes that spring up when you dope silicon like this though, I only probed things with light and did calculations relating to that probing, I didn't do any modelling concerning the diffusion and behaviour of dopants which I kinda regret.

Then you can optically manipulate that remaining donor electron. It didn't really work cause it's hard and the lifetimes of the donor electron systems are not great (tens of ns to ~100ns for some of the systems).

It was then I realised that physics research is a dangerous thing to attempt if you can't stomach the constant uncertainty and risk about your own personal future, when you are found to be not good enough due to not publishing, so I abandoned academia so I could massively reduce that stress and constant anxiety and actually have a life.

So the tldr is that this is not bullshit at all, it is in-fact very interesting and a promising line of work. But it's not going to make anyone's career by itself, and without appropriate pumping of the importance of the work and sufficient mentoring no-one who works on it as a grad student has a future as a researcher.

So no, it's neither Nobel Prize material or total bullshit.


Didn’t Makhlin and company do artificial molecules as qubits like 20 years ago?


What original commenter is mentioning is "if this isn't bullshit, change the text so that you could push it for Nobel" or publish it in a place where you can find good recognition


The exact person to whom my comment was a reply lol.


Since they could only publish in Nature Communications it's probably BS.


See my comment above.




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