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Pardon the dumb question, but has anyone just tried quinine? I've been wondering if a hefty gin and tonic would help matters.


I'm taking it, I've also got my family and neighbors on it. I was unable to convince doctors since February to take me seriously that hydroxychloroquine is likely to have prophylactic effects so I took matters into my own hands. I know what I'm doing. Those who don't know what they are doing should not just jump in since they need to manage and understand the dose, the drug interactions, and the side effects. None of which are a problem for most people. Most. The ones that aren't though the interactions are well enough known and documented. I am not recommending it to anyone, that would probably be a crime. I'm saying if you're smart and understand science and thoughtful and not reckless you might be able to use it with the same safety that indians did for thousands of years. I still don't think you should though. Push for HCQ instead.

Commercial tonic is limited by federal law to 20mg per 8 oz, so I make my own tonic.

It would be much much better and would likely stop this whole problem if we'd just mail prophylactic doses of HCQ to the whole population instead of mailing a $1500 check to everyone like they've decided instead.

It's very humorous how people look at tropical countries that still have widespread HCQ use for anti-malaria and announce that they must be undercounting cases since their reported numbers are far too low. No, their numbers are not too low. It's just a lot of people in these regions are essentially vaccinated.


I think you’re missing one of the key parts of the article: be careful. Mass administration of a drug is dangerous. As you mention early in your post, you know what you’re doing, I take you at your word. But a drug with known serious side effects shouldn’t be mass distributed without clear benefit. Studies so far are encouraging but tiny and noisy sample size. We’ll get better data soon.

Even then, if it proves effective in symptomatic cases, it’s unclear prophylactic use is called for. More sensible to administer to those with current symptoms. If truly effective this would lower fatalities and keep ICUs from being overwhelmed.

Finally, the most recent French study suggests a combination with azithromycin is the actual effective treatment. We just don’t know enough yet, we will soon, let’s be responsible.


Quinine hasn’t been used for malaria prophylaxis since the times of the British Empire. Even for its successor, Wikipedia has this:

> Areas of the world with chloroquine sensitive malaria are uncommon.[84]

The overlap between countries with few cases of Coronavirus and those with Malaria is tenuous at best. Turkey doesn’t have Malaria, and for that matter neither does Russia.

People in Malaria areas also tend not to use pharmacological prophylaxis, because the side-effects are impossible to tolerate in the long term. Prophylaxis is for tourists. That’s why mosquito nets are such effective intervention.


How are you making the tonic?


Lmao.


I'm not a doctor (yet) but I believe quinine has immunosuppressant effects so you don't want to take it preemptively, only when you have your own immune system in overdrive.


that's been asked in literally every thread that has discussed this and no, modern tonic water is not as strong as the stuff the british used to make and is not an effective dose for either malaria or covid. You'd need to drink 30 liters or so a day to get a single dose, you'd kill your kidneys first.

tonic syrup/concentrate, maybe.




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