Check again. Your link backs up the chart I posted. Medicare paying hospitals 8k per covid patient and 39k per ventilator use simply with symptoms, no test required, also does not help. But keep the downvotes coming.
Probably ~20% more for covid than non-covid, based on what I've followed from CARES, but I wouldn't focus the incentive problem on ventilators. And you're right. Excess deaths are way up, so I assume there is a problem with my chart. But heart attacks and strokes are also way down, and in every article I've read (NPR, WaPo) there's an assumption that they just aren't coming in. Has nobody read the covid classification guidelines? I stand by that non-covid cases are being massively misclassified as covid.
Maybe, or maybe it's increased suicide, domestic violence, other coronaviruses, and even covid. Suicide for example is about as deadly as the flu during a normal year and peaks right about now. The excess mortality does require an explanation though, agree. I'm sure some heart attacks and strokes are happening at home, but 60-80%? Seems unlikely.
> Check again. Your link backs up the chart I posted.
The chart you posted shows a total of just over 20k deaths in all of New York state between March 1st and April 25th, while the link I posted shows 27k deaths in NYC alone between March 11th and April 25th.
Your chart also shows about 4k non-coronavirus deaths, again across the whole state for that period, while the NYC-only stats show more than 10k "Deaths not known to be confirmed or probable COVID-19" in less than that amount of time.
Now repeat with double the population to account for the rest of the state (with lower coronavirus incidence) and another 10 days (about 20% of the time period in question) that had the normal incidence of non-coronavirus deaths.
So, no, nothing about that chart matches up to reality.
The link you posted shows 11k/16k deaths from COVID. Nothing about 27k. And the chart I posted doesn't show total deaths in NYC, but some selection of morbidities. Is it wrong? Probably. But official data also says heart attacks and strokes are massively down (60-80%), and covid is way up, and there are big incentive problems. I stand by the point.
11460 confirmed covid-19 deaths
5213 probable but unconfirmed covid 19 deaths
10964 not know to be probable and not confirmed deaths (all non-covid deaths)
Which adds up to 27637 total deaths.
Your graph shows ~ 20000 total deaths. That's significantly different.
Also, the sources for the graph you posted are:
1. https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html
which as far as I can get it to show, only counts deaths from pneumonia regardless of cause. So I really don't understand why they listed that as a source for the graph as that information isn't displayed.
2. covidtracking.com
Which could be the source of their numbers for covid deaths but that leaves no source for their totals.
