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Waymo/Cruise and Uber aren't even in the same class and as I said, Waymo/Cruise cars go thousands of miles without driver intervention.

Waymo cars go 11,000+ miles without driver intervention on average.

I would encourage doing actual research into this subject, rather than relying on your gut or the news articles you read.



Spare me.

Most self-driving is done in warm climates, in a circle. These companies are amassing thousands of empty miles on the same streets every day to impress people who don't know any better.

I lived on a branch of the main Google circuit, and often they were the only traffic for most of the day. Even saw three Google vehicles in a line, but two were more common.

What's the value of "self-driving" with no weather, traffic or route variation? PR and regulatory filing stats.


I don't understand. There are self driving cars in SF. I saw one today. It is/ was raining.

There was a driver, but I'm fairly certain that the drivers are not actively driving but are legally required to be there.


Last time cruise made a report about disengagements (where the safety driver had to take over) it was one every 5000 miles driven. That's 1 crash the car was prevented from every 5000 miles. Humans crash once per 70000 miles.


> That's 1 crash the car was prevented from every 5000 miles.

What? That's not at all what disengagements mean


you don't know what a disengagement is.


2 year old driving in Moscow after snowfall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx08yRsR9ow


I would gladly pay for a full self driving feature even if I had to drive when it was raining.




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