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My point is that they don't get to decide that, though. They decide whether they will pay for hosting, but they can't stop him from paying for his own hosting elsewhere.

Likewise, if the WSJ decides not to publish my letter to the editor, they aren't violating my freedom of speech, they are just deciding not to amplify it.




You are comparing apples to oranges. WSJ is a publisher. These tech companies are currently enjoying the benefits of being a "platform" while acting as publishers.


> These tech companies are currently enjoying the benefits of being a "platform" while acting as publishers.

If this is referring to Section 230, I think it's a misinterpration. Section 230 gives platforms the ability to moderate without being (legally) treated as a publisher, but it doesn't make them into a utility. If it's referring to a different law, I'm curious which one.

In your view, if YouTube is not a publisher, should they be required to host pornography? Are the community features part of the platform, or is YouTube entitled to host content but make it undiscoverable?


You’re trivialising the issue a bit. Remember when CloudFront stopped providing DDos protection to some white nationalist website (I forgot which one). “Just start your own multi-billion company bro!”


It's also inaccessible to me to buy a printing press, but that doesn't make the WSJ compelled to print something I write.


You sure you're not referring to CloudFlare and The Daily Stormer?


I'd be more sympathetic to your point if you hadn't said at first (paraphrased) "Alex Jones said this awful thing I disagree with". Therefore you presumably believe it's ok he got kicked off of whatever platform, because of _what_ he believes.

You really don't see the moral hazard in that?


I believe YouTube has the right to remove it whether or not I agree with it, because they don't owe it to anyone to pay their hosting bill.


Should a restaurant be able to refuse service to an openly gay couple then in your opinion? What if it offends the other patrons?


There is no law protecting conspiracy theorists.


I'm not sure there is a national law requiring businesses to serve gay customers either. I'm just curious how OP feels about that.

Besides, who decides who is and who isn't a conspiracy theorist. You? A twitter mob? The government? Some people in San Francisco?

The fact that there is apparently such strong disagreement (most of which probably is from people who believe that it is appropriate to use the strong market share of these platforms to mold political discourse) is a bit alarming. No way that ends well.


Fine, let the court of public opinion decide.

Alex Jones is banned from Youtube. People, largely, do not give a shit. Now try banning gay people from a resturant.

Good luck with that.

And in many jurisdictions it is illegal to discriminate over sexual orientation. There is no such law protecting conspiracy theorists.


Your argument is juvenile and fails to address the point


And your reply is devoid of substance.

I think we're done here.


my argument has substance and I agree. not worth it.


And my point is that it's undesirable to have a handful of companies with this kind of control.

The "host your own" argument is done to death truly. If one type of speech can be hosted for "free" by a company with 80%+ market share, so should another without discrimination.

To allow otherwise is to risk of erosion of our values and enable corruption. Even if you don't like Jones.




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