My six siblings and I had farmer parents with a high school education. We all went to (and finished) college. Now we have 2 fortune-500 VPs, a research nursing administrator, an IT professional, and 2 self-employed business owners doing very well.

So it can help to go to college. Just saying.

Oh. And the next generation - 100% college educated. Several PhD's. All well employed. None working on the farm. So for some segment of America at some time, college was/is a huge factor in their social mobility.

That's funny, I'm an IT professional now and I'd like to one day own a farm.

And I do! No animals; just crops and an orchard and 7 gardens. Sometimes horses graze; sometimes we stable overflow from the neighbor.

And I work remotely. Have, for 20 years.

> None working on the farm.

You seem to be proud, but sound derogatory towards those who actually work on a farm and are proud of it.

There's nothing wrong with working on a farm, but it is objectively not a good job. Long hours, low pay, high stress. I understand being proud of working on a farm, but I understand being proud of not working on a farm too.

Success in America isn't "becomes a farm laborer". I think that's well-understood.

I actually live on my farm, have for 25 years. With Silicon Valley money from successful startup buyouts.

Btw "You …" kind of posts are sort of unnecessary. I know what I am; no need to tell me. Maybe just add your own thoughts, its less argumentative and we learn something.

I write how I write, either you like it or not. Keep your lectures on how to start sentences for your kids, I am not interested.

Again with the personal attacks. Not really necessary nor welcome on HN. Notice how those posts turn grey? And, my kids know how to right, thanks.

1. Nobody was attacking you in first place. Re-read the comments. 2. You complained about my writing style and got a reply in a same way. Ironically you seem to have problem with that. 3. I don't care much about karma and posts turning grey. If you don't like my opinion just move on.

Learn that there are more views than your own. I won't be writing in a way you want to get upvotes from you. So again, keep your lectures for yourself and stick on point.

Good for you if your kids know how. I am not really interested in that, so keep it to yourself.

I didn't downvote you :) Its not possible to downvote responses to your own posts.

Reading motivation into my words is certainly rude, and unnecessary. As I've mentioned its always better to just add one's own thoughts, instead of warping other's words to fit your narrative. Just a thought.

I haven't said that you downvoted me. Not sure how you come up with this? If you look at the sequence it was:

You: "Notice how those posts turn grey?"

Me: "I won't be writing in a way you want to get upvotes from you.".

You: "I didn't downvote you :) Its not possible to downvote responses to your own posts.".

Making things up is certainly unnecessary and commenting on someones writing style is certainly rude.

Again, that's my view, it doesn't have to match your view. We can both have different views and express them freely.