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Which is precisely why LeCun - like myself - agrees with 95% of what Gebru has said in the past.

The issue at hand was her lack of good-faith engagement on Twitter and the subsequent pile-on from the mob. LeCun is quitting Twitter, he's not quitting ethical debates.



> Which is precisely why LeCun - like myself - agrees with 95% of what Gebru has said in the past.

Even now, it's not clear to me that this is the case. LeCun still hasn't actually acknowledged any of the broader ethical arguments Gebru made, either on twitter or on his followup posts on facebook.

In fact, he makes no references to her research anywhere (beyond the vaguest "I value the research you're doing" in his apology tweet). I found that rather suspicious, I still do.

Like, having read through the entire conversation, I have no confidence that Yann could explain any of Timnit's research if asked about it, even in broad strokes. That's really, really weird given everything that happened.


> Even now, it's not clear to me that this is the case. LeCun still hasn't actually acknowledged any of the broader ethical arguments Gebru made, either on twitter or on his followup posts on facebook.

Well, to be fair, she didn't provide Yann with any ethical arguments in this instance.

But being equally fair, you're right, I can't speak for Yann. I can only speak for myself, and I personally agree with most of what I've read of Gebru's work (though not all).

But the issue at hand wasn't the research itself - it's the way the dialogue was conducted on Twitter, and Gebru accounted for herself very poorly.


> Well, to be fair, she didn't provide Yann with any ethical arguments in this instance.

Yes and no. A lot of what I'm saying is directly from the tutorial she repeatedly suggested he watch. Because I took the time to watch it, because that's the reasonable thing to do when someone suggests that you aren't fully informed on a subject and suggests a resource to improve your understanding.




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