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DDG for "Defund the Police" from my normal browser at home in the UK with UK sites enabled

1) CNN: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/06/us/what-is-defund-police-...

2) https://defundthepolice.org

3) Wikipedia

4) Daily Caller (sigh)

5) Guardian

CNN opens with

It's as straightforward as it sounds: Instead of funding a police department, a sizable chunk of a city's budget is invested in communities, especially marginalized ones where much of the policing occurs.

Wikipedia states

"Defund the police" is a slogan that supports divesting funds from police departments and reallocating them to non-policing forms of public safety and community support, such as social services, youth services, housing, education, healthcare and other community resources. Activists who use the phrase may do so with varying intentions; some seek modest reductions, while others argue for full defunding as a step toward the abolition of contemporary police services.

> The misunderstanding we're talking about here is that people assume it means only cutting down police funds without investing it anywhere else.

You'd think conservatives would be all for that - smaller state, lower taxes




Why would anyone be 'for that'?

Defunding the police in high crime areas will only result in more crime.

Most Black communities are underpoliced, not overpoliced, and they don't get a response often enough when they call 9/11.

So many areas have called for 'more policing' - we saw this in the UK/London where crime rates came up in the last 24 months due to cuts in policing.

What we want are police that avoid having to shoot people necessarily.


> You'd think conservatives would be all for that - smaller state, lower taxes.

I think conservatives might get behind defunding the police if those funds were routed back to the taxpayer, rather than to expanding social programs -- or any government program, for that matter.

Moving money from a strongly conservative part of the government to a strongly leftist part of the government looks too much like a power grab to gain traction with conservatives.

You'd also get conservative buy-in if it came with a pro-gun stance. If citizens are going to police their own communities, then they need to have the option to carry and employ arms as necessary for the task.

I think there's a lot of opportunity for give-and-take in criminal justice reform -- prisons and drug policy should also be on the table! -- but it requires both sides putting things of equal value on the fire, and I don't see that happening.




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