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I don't miss the karma at all. If you don't have time to read the comments and evaluate for yourself which ones are good or bad, why are you even here?



It's like removing karma on articles, and saying 'if you don't have time to read the articles and evaluate for yourself which ones are good or bad why are you even here'?

For me there are a number of answers to your question:

- I love HN because I get to learn about lots of stuff I know very little about. For example I'm a business guy not a progammer, but I love to learn more about the non-business things. I genuinely can't judge the 'good or bad' on my own on some of this stuff. The karma gives me a quick and simple way of the community - this wonderful, intelligent community - pointing me in the right direction.

- It also shows where my comments might be off base - not because my comments karma is high or low (which I still see) but because I can see if the counter arguments are rated highly. For example I can't see if your comment is highly regarded or not. If was +40, compared to +1, I'd be more likely to think 'hmm, maybe I'm wrong on this after all'. Sometime is not just the power of the argument that changes minds, it's the weight behind it. I can't see that weight now.

-sometimes I quickly browse HN with some minutes of down time. Sometimes I read in depth. I now feel I'm being forced all the time to read in depth. Whilst that sounds good, in practise for me it isn't. Instead of more in depth reading I'm just cutting out the browsing, so I feel ultimately I'm getting less out of HN.


As a PhD and researcher that occasionally sees articles on HN in my field, I can tell you that correctness of a comment's content can be independent of comment karma. I have seen 100% correct posts downvoted to oblivion with highly rated 100% incorrect responses by users playing some sort of formal debate game nonsense. In my pre-HN-bankruptcy account, I used engage and try to correct these discussions, but really it's just not worth it and once I see it starting I just skip the thread. Since that's how it works for posts related to my field, I have to assume the same holds for others that are not my field.


The score doesn't have to be perfect to be helpful.


Sometimes, I do have time to read all the comments and evaluate for myself which are good and bad. That's great.

Other times, I don't have that much time and simply want to glean from the best comments on a post.

And then there are the posts in subject areas that are outside or on the edge of my expertise, where I have no business evaluating the comments. I can still benefit from reading them though, and the karma helps me give weight to the good ones and disregard the bad.


What are you even talking about? The point of sites like HN is curation.


Do you ask museum curators what point value they assigned the paintings in their exhibits?

The curation still happens without numbers attached.


You don't need to. It's there, therefore it has value. Not at all like HN comments.


@angrycoder - your shitting me right? Because I don't have time to read EVERY comment I shouldn't be here?




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