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I don’t fully understand the positivity here. Isn’t Firefox sell itself as a non-profit?


I think the positivity comes from the fact that Mozilla has struggled to survive since its inception and is generally a good company.


Except when they fired basically all their talent. I don't really have any love for them after this.

Mozilla should've always been structured as a co-op.


if they asked their advanced users to pitch in $10/mo to keep at least some of that talent and to ween off google revenue, i doubt any of us would have had issues. but they did the most absurd thing possible :(


Haven't they been asking for that for years?


it has always been impossible to donate directly for firefox or any specific mozilla initiative. any donations just got black-holed with questionable sideshow shit continuing to happen. i stopped donating at that point; that's not how i want to "vote with my wallet".

really bummed about the whole thing.


I specify in the note where I want the donation to go to when I send a donation (e.g. "for Thunderbird"); I have received notes back from the Thunderbird team referencing the donation, which satisfies the question in mind as to whether my donation preference was respected.


Look at the bright side. Executive compensation didn't even have to change!


> Except when they fired basically all their talent. That is an extreme exaggeration. From firing about 25% of their workforce, to 'basically all their talent' is a looong way.

> Mozilla should've always been structured as a co-op. Please fork their software and start one. If you are successful, I will say I always believed in you, if not, I will say that you should've always been structured as a social purpose corporation


The problem being that forks work for ideological differences, not for resources differences.

If you forked Firefox and made unambiguous improvements, Mozilla would presumably incorporate them, because why wouldn't they? Then everybody would get your improvements from firefox.com instead of notfirefox.com because that's what they're familiar with, and with Mozilla's default search instead of yours, so they still get all the money.


I also never said I'd do a better job than them.

Just commenting on the fact that the way the organization was setup was bad for Firefox as the product.


non-profit doesn't mean non-revenue




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