The market also isn't as volatile as people make it out to be. The top most used js frameworks (React, Angular and Vue) have been in the top spots for 5 to 7 years now. I guess the market might as well be settled. Of course there are some new comers every year, but they don't enjoy a large market share. Hell, I've not even seen VueJS used once in any serious project in the industry.
React and Angular are here to stay, and there's no changing that.
I agree that there will be a need for react/angular talent for many years to come. That said, I think engineering orgs are picking up on the fact that rolling web apps this way introduces lots of complexity and requires lots of resources to maintain and extend. I really don't want to think about regularly maintaining a 10-year-old redux-backed react app down the road.
Whether react/angular/vue are able to continue improving enough to justify staying within that world remains to be seen. It's very early days for some of the new frameworks out there, but with web assembly on the horizon, companies will again be motivated to modernize, however that looks.
This is a popular opinion particularly if all someone pays attention to is Twitter and Reddit but I'd argue it is a wrong opinion.
Angular is alive and well, and being used/adopted every day for projects no one hears about. It isn't the "sexy" choice, but it is the one a lot of companies make.
And if you're gonna point to opinion polls, and all kinds of respect to those who put them out, but they have a hard time capturing Angular usage due to selection bias.
Depends where you live and work I suppose. I used to work in a consultancy firm in Norway that was all in on Angular two-three years ago. Angular has been very popular in enterprise here. But Twitter and Reddit reach enterprise too in the end. The consultancy firm has now switched more or less entirely over to React because Angular is so out of vogue.
US consultant here with a similar story. A lot of what we're doing now seems to be moving toward headless CMS and headless ecommerce with NextJS/Gatsby for the integration point.
I'm still a big fan of Angular, but the amount of work we're getting asking for Angular has dropped off a cliff.
I used to work for a big financial analytics company that used Angular 1.5 for everything. Around the time I left, they started migrating to VueJS instead. Obviously this is all anecdotal, and I have no doubt AngularJS is still being used in a lot of places, but I think there's reason to believe its share might be shrinking.
AngularJS is obviously shrinking. It's the 1.x version, and no one should be starting new projects with it. I don't think anyone is referring to AngularJS. When people say Angular, they'd be referring to v2.0+.
Similar story in the old company I worked for. Though I have experienced that there are a few companies that are happy with Angular and see no reason to switch.
Your comment seems to present anecdotal evidence as facts about $framework's popularity. I think that's misleading.
I'm wondering if there's a scraper out there crawling Alexa TOP 1xxx pages for use of specific libraries, frameworks? Maybe that would present a more accurate picture about this.
Also it's often misleading since in any company with more than a few employees there seems to be more than one team of developers which often leads to different frameworks being used in different parts of the company. In $dayJob we use Angular in some legacy internal stuff, React in a rewritten consumer-facing project and preact or jQuery in a different consumer-facing project.
It's not that simple to determine marketshare of frameworks I think. We can just present different numbers and draw different conclusions from it, e.g. number of job postings mentioning specific frameworks, number of downloads in a registry, number of domains using it (assuming one app per domain), number of stars on github or number of people claiming to use it in the stackoverflow survey.
A lot of the web isn't publicly accessible. And most .com marketing sites are built on a much different tech stack than the actual product. Example: landing page is Wordpress, actual site is a SPA (be it React/Angular/Vue etc).
I’ve deployed a number of applications using Ember’s (Octane) and will continue to use that over React, Angular, and Vue for as long as these other frameworks continue to prioritize fp zealotry over getting shut done.
What do you mean 'fp'? Ember was quite literally one of the worst experiences ever. Not having javascript expressions in handlebars is literally excrutiating. I'm so glad I never have to use ember, ever, ever again.
Download the league client if you want to be scared straight about ember. Resource usage gradually ramps up until by the 5th game the client is using more RAM than the game itself.
React and Angular are here to stay, and there's no changing that.