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Although the other side of the coin is that Silicon Valley has much higher living costs. Does this make a big difference? Do people in Silicon Valley have significantly higher qualities of life, or is there an argument for staying away from the expensive hubs?


I grew up on the East Coast, but I love Silicon Valley. Not necessarily as much as I loved NYC, but they're very different.

Silicon Valley has really, really nice weather, almost to the point of monotony. It rained something like 3 times last summer, and the rest of the time it was 75-85 degrees without being too humid. There's a lot of asian cuisine available, and some of the best restaurants (of many varieties) in the world to the North in Napa. Nature is extremely accessible, and some of the best skiing in the US is a relatively short drive (the Rockies are much, much better than the Appalachians). It's a day-tripper's heaven.

As for downsides, Houses tend to be smaller, and even those are absurdly expensive. Rents in the better parts are just a cut below low-end NYC rents. The atmosphere could be described as "Irrational Exuberance" or more commonly as an echo chamber, which can be great encouragement if you're trying to do something crazy, but it can also severely weaken your BS filter if you're not careful. Silicon Valley itself is better-than-average suburban sprawl, but it's still suburban sprawl. The public transit system is lackluster compared to NYC, but it is an option, at least. Access to a car is generally necessary (ZipCar might work, though).

There are a bunch of other upsides and downsides, but those are the impressions off the top of my head from having lived there a bit less than a year. Overall, I really like it.


It is about 15 hours to the Rockies. Did you mean the Sierra Nevada mountains?


Sorry, you're right, I was lumping the two together. Convenient and cheap flights to the Rockies, though. :-)


It makes a difference, but the added living costs rarely eat up all the additional salary you make. You have to figure them into your financial calculations, but you'll usually end up ahead in terms of the net amount of money you can bank in a given amount of time.


Concur. I moved to Sunnyvale from Cincinnati, OH. My salary in 2005 (prior to taking a pay cut when co-founding a startup) was $67k. My current salary is $120k. While the cost of living is higher, my net after all is said and done (savings, stock, retirement, etc) is significantly higher.


I moved from Silicon Valley to Indiana, and went from making over 70k to making 40k. I will tell you that the standard of living is not THAT much higher in silicon valley than the middle-of-nowhere, midwest, where I live now. It is not $35-40k a year more expensive by any stretch of the imagination, all lifestyle considerations (quality of apartment, vehicle, etc.) being equal.

It is not a dollar-for-dollar match when you move to Silicon Valley. The pay disparity between living in SV and not living in SV is disproportionate to the cost of living. (In no way do I intend that to sound negative.)


But then when you move away, you were legitimately making more at your last job.

Live in Midwest: Job 1: Make 65,000. Job 2: Make 70,000.

Live in the Valley: Job 1: Make 120,000. Move to Midwest. Job 2: Probably keep making 120,000.




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