It's a pointless argument. Apple aren't doing anything intrinsically wrong by offering a proprietary model. Your requirements for a device are just different from the requirements of most of Apple's customers. The solution is just to use something else and not worry too much about what Apple is up to.

That's not a problem but a feature. The huge majority of users just wants something that works (tm). I used to jailbreak and root android and whatever. My phone has become such an integral part in my daily routine, I want it to work and not have to expand effort in keeping it working. And I'll pay happily for it, and yes even the inflated prices Apple uses, because stuff keeps working for years without me thinking about it. If I want to tinker I'll get a PI or some other cheap hardware to play around with.

Some users who sign up for this actually claim that they don't want to do any of that; they want only Apple-blessed images to be accepted on the phone. This fits their specific use cases and they are happy with that. Go figure.

Thing is such a choice does not affect those users. They just don't side-load or install an other OS.

There are users would use such option though. Otherwise breaking would not be a thing.

I jailbroke my iPhone and tried out many from the most popular list in the Cydia? store. After about two months I unjailbroke because I didn't care for any of benefits I had personally experienced. It sounds like there's a lot of people who did this, in part because Apple takes inspiration from the jailbreak-only apps.

>There also the fact proprietary software probably raises their prices. So the user eats the 30% instead. Unlike the case if that software were able to self distribute.

If the market would already bear an additional 30% then you can be sure the developers would have taken that extra revenue.

>I am sick of people defending Apple

Then don't but their products, there are plenty of alternatives out there.

And yet, knowing this, people still purchase these products. Apple's reputation, while not spotless, is better than the competitor's on privacy and security. These things, at one time, did't mean as much as they do now. I'm an Apple support and have several devices, but if I see a change in the company, I'll move to something else.

Not defending indeed. I just had a frustrating experience where Apple refused to repair the 2 manufacturing defects on my MacBook Pro for free (which they said they would on their website [0] [1]), claiming there was corrosion found on the logic board. There is no option for only paying for the part they purportedly said you are responsible for. You have to pay for their malfunctioning parts if they say you should.

[0] https://support.apple.com/en-hk/13-inch-macbook-pro-display-... [1] https://support.apple.com/en-hk/13inch-macbookpro-battery-re...

So you are also sick of people defending sony, nintendo and microsoft?

They have the exact same policies for their consoles.

I'm not the OP, but I never hear people staunchly defend any of those companies the way they do apple. Apple fans seem to accept and defend every questionable decision the company makes.

no headphone jack? that's a feature! no unauthorized software? that's a feature! spontaneously combusts in your pocket? you just don't understand the reason they did that. it's a feature!

the combustion in your pocket seems to be a samsung feature ;)

I guess its kind a the same tribalism with sports teams and other things people are fans of.

I am pretty certain the no unauthorized software is a good business decision for them, but it also helps a lot of end user security.

As long as gaming consoles allow phisical distribution of software on discs or cartridges the companies can claim that an alternative exists.

It is of course still unfair (phisical is much more expensive) that they do not allow digital sideloading but as long as the phisical option exits, they have an excuse.

Apple has no excuse. They are leveraging their monopoly on iOS devices (a natural monopoly, they made and own iOS, it's not the monopoly that's the issue) to extract revenue in a different area (transaction processing).

Thats not a alternative nor siddeloading. The discs needs to be digitally signed by the console created to be used.

And still requires payment to the console manufacuterer.

Mkt cap: 1.98T

Users don’t care.

Pension funds don’t care!

I used to jailbreak regularly, because so many more things were possible on a jailbroken iPhone. But each year more of my goto tweaks were either incorporated in to the OS proper, or made unnecessary. I don’t know if that pressure release valve was Apple’s deliberate strategy to satiate jail-breaker’s nagging wants, but for several years now I’ve had no desire to go beyond stock. I’m happy with what I get for what I pay for, which is I think the calculus of 98% of the user base.