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Wanting to separate engineering work from reality is precisely what Barrin92 is saying should not and can not be done. Engineering work isn't just some insulated game that gives you tokens to buy things you need in the real world. The engineering work is itself part of the real world.


By that logic, you can't separate church and state either.

And that's to say that you can and you should.


Separation of church and state is nothing more than a limitation on the government, prohibiting it from establishing a national religion or inhibiting religious practice. It is not a claim that religion can never be discussed in government, or that government can never be discussed in religious practice.


If you’re a government employee it’s highly discouraged to the point of official reprimand.


That's so hilariously incorrect as to be alarming.


I think this is all contextual to our times. We just have so much disagreement on what we are sure is moral/immoral.

If the different political sides had more balance, I think it'd make sense to permit a modest bit in the workplace.

But today the left is so sure of its position to the point where they think they are in the black & white moral right _and_ they are increasingly dominant and loud in our cultural institutions and many corporate institutions that it is substantially interfering with basic ability to think.


Everything is part of the real world. Would you go to a mattress company and demand that they make it harder for your political opponents to get a good night's sleep?


No, I wouldn't, but I don't know how that is relevant. If a mattress company refused to sell mattresses to gay people, I wouldn't do business with that mattress company, and I would also approve of employees of that mattress company taking part in political activism to oppose that practice.


I guess I don't see how the response is relevant. If Coinbase refused to sell cryptocurrency to gay people, I'd be all in favor of employees and external political activists saying they should - and Coinbase agrees, they don't expect to be apolitical with respect to the actual work that they do.


Wouldn't be the first time a mattress company got involved in that space. Casper sponsors the Slate Political Gabfest podcast, or used to at least.


I dunno, but I bet in the long run the mattress company that allows internal debate outperforms one that silences it.


I just don't see how yelling about complex and emotional social issues could help a company build good mattresses.


Because activism is more than yelling about complex and emotional social issues, even if that’s the way you perceive it.


Is there anything between yelling and forbidding all discussion?


To some degree. It's very possible for employees to have polite discussions over the lunch table about political topics, and to the extent Coinbase is trying to prohibit those discussions I'm against it.

Is there a way to have employees say e.g. "the company needs to endorse suchandsuch political slogan" or "the company needs to oppose suchandsuch candidate" without yelling? I don't think so.




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