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What also might go unsaid here is: the practical effect of Level 3's requirements vs. its capabilities is that it probably will not be able to engage often. If the car can't safely do it, it's not going to do it. So you'll invest all this money in a Level 3 car, only to find out that it only engages maybe once or twice a year, when the planets line up and it has all the info and environment it actually needs to work.


I'm not saying you're wrong, but I don't think any major manufacturer would release it if that's the case.

I can't imagine the customer response to a self-driving system they can only turn on once a year would be good.

Seems like an obvious PR/Marketing nightmare.


To be fair, one would also think that releasing a self-driving system that drives into the back of a semi at speed would be a PR/Marketing nightmare, but it hasn’t slowed Tesla down.

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2019/05/feds-autopilot-was-acti...


I don't actually agree with you here.

Drivers get into accidents ALL the time. Having a self-driving crash is entirely expected. It's also a relatively rare occurance.

Having the system not work in the majority of cases will make literally every buyer upset.


This is an unlikely outcome.

Already, Toyota has released their third version of driving assistance, TSS2.5, which has reasonably decent ability to stay in lanes on highways. For anyone who does any highway driving, it's a competent system that a driver can use a good portion of highway driving. And it's likely less capable than Honda's system.

OpenPilot is another example - pretty good at most roads on highways or large boulevards. Like others, not for use in city streets.

At least for the American road system, you may be underestimating how much time people spend on large, well-defined highways that could use this system. Some other countries rely less on big highways and this could affect the portion of time available to use it.


These converations tend to be unproductive because self driving "levels" are only one dimension and don't consider terrain diversity.

A car that works at L3 only a sunny day on low-density highway is useful to have.




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