I certainly feel like migrating to a PinePhone in near future but where can I view the list of the apps available anyway?
The most important app I need (I wouldn't even need a smartphone otherwise) is Telegram - it's the major way we communicate in the company and in the family. Is it there?
I seriously consider going away from Android (Google).
Is Linux a viable option as mobile OS? I've got a feeling that it is almost as a 'dumb' phone. You got your calculator and SMS app but that's about it.
Or would going to something like LineageOS be a better option?
> I've got a feeling that it is almost as a 'dumb' phone. You got your calculator and SMS app but that's about it.
GNU/Linux phones are full personal computers in your pocket. They can do everything a computer can do: terminal, desktop Firefox, games, convergence (external screen, keyboard, mouse) etc. See my other links about Librem 5 in this thread.
Android apps on a big screen are not desktop apps [0]. Can you run desktop Firefox with all plugins there? Can you run native GNU/Linux applications in a terminal? Can you use the latest Linux kernel?
I have read it, and again I was already coding in the age of 8 and 16 bit computing, with their OSes built-in into ROM, no issues with them.
I also only cared for Linux because Microsoft wasn't serious about POSIX support back in the day and it was a solution for my problem to avoid commuting for an hour to access a DG/UX system.
If you computer places artificial restrictions on what you can do with it, then it's company participates in the war against the general-purpose computing.
If it's a technical limitation, it's a totally different thing.
I'm sorry that you do not care about the freedom of users. Users who do not know about all these things suffer from unlimited power of developers [0] and cannot do anything to escape various walled gardens and traps of proprietary systems [1].
Staying away from the proprietary software is already hard in practice (I'm trying hard, works in 95% cases). Not sure if staying away from those licenses will help more.
As someone in the US, I would have to say no, for one reason:
None of the mobile Linux distros yet support group texts (reliably, anyway). If someone sends you a group text, you won't see it. (The only distro that seems to have partial support for it is Ubuntu Touch, and there it seems incomplete; sometimes I would receive group messages and sometimes not. I missed a few important ones this way.)
This is probably only relevant to those in the US as I understand MMS is not as prevalent elsewhere.
> This is probably only relevant to those in the US as I understand MMS is not as prevalent elsewhere.
I've heard this a few times in connection with the Pinephone, but we certainly do use MMS in Europe.
I seem to recall, assuming my memory is at all reliable, that when the iPhone first launched, Europeans were complaining about the lack of MMS and Americans were saying it wasn't a problem because everyone should just use e-mail.
2007 was a different time. (A time when almost nobody had smartphones - how foreign is that from today's perspective?) Have a look at the plan available in the US for the iPhone at the time: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2007/06/26AT-T-and-Apple-Anno...
Even the cheapest plan has unlimited SMS and effectively unlimited MMS as a result. Whether it's used more because it's included or whether it's included because it's used more (probably a bit of both)... I don't think 2007 is a useful reference point for what people expect from their phones today.
The cheapest plan on that page is $30. I get unlimited MMS on my $17 plan in Europe, so I don't see how the pricing would make MMS more prevalent in the US than in Europe.
Do you have a reference supporting the idea that MMS is mostly relevant to the US and not the rest of the world? It doesn't match up with my experience, but maybe my family and friends are atypical.
> You got your calculator and SMS app but that's about it.
Well, thankfully it's not the case. The heart is a ARM processor with plenty of code already ported to run on it, and the surrounding hardware isn't that different from many single board computers that already run complete Linux distributions. As an example, Firefox, GIMP and Libreoffice -the real ones, not dumbed down versions- already do run on the Pinephone.
Keep in mind that the video is one year old, meaning old phone model with less RAM, very young OS and likely no code optimization for apps to run on a phone rather on a desktop PC.
Actually I wouldn't be surprised at all if one year from now we would have more software available for the Pinephone compared to Android. Sometimes it's just a matter of recompiling (huge argument in favor of Open Source).
As another example, if Lazarus (lazarus-ide.org) would run on it (it already does on the Raspberry PI and many other ARM boards), one could develop native GUI apps directly on the phone. Probably not comfortable, still possible.
The only problem in my opinion would arise from the unavailability of phone specific apps, particularly closed ones or those depending on proprietary servers whose owners wouldn't give a damn about recompiling their client and are particularly anal retentive wrt allowing 3rd party apps accessing the services, for example Whatsapp. In that case one would have to attempt to emulate a different platform in which run the original proprietary app, which very likely would make things too slow to be useable.
With regard to Whatsapp, it should run on Anbox (Android emulation for PinePhone), because Whatsapp does not require Google Play Services and runs on vanilla Android.
Do you have any data on performance? Having Whatsapp run at acceptable speed on Linux phones would represent a great bump for their acceptance among normal users.
No, there’s a lot more. Also, some Android apps work via Anbox. I have been blogging (https://linmob.net) about this since June and created a bunch of videos. If you have more specific questions, feel free to email me.
Yes, I do. However I have to switch off my phone when not using it to get through a day, or use a second battery (which is fine for me). A night takes about 50% battery when it's on. Improvements are very much expected.
That would be a problem for those of us who would rather have a thick phone (I'm perfectly fine with 2 centimeters, no kidding) with great battery life (== early morning to late night at high load), rather than a credit card thin one that needs to be recharged too often. Might be a further development in which users can purchase a thicker rear cover with bigger or additional batter(y|ies) and snap them in place of the original one.
Telegram Desktop works fine when tweaked as described on the Mobian wiki.
For other apps may be https://LINMOBapps.frama.io can help you to get an idea.
Check for AArch64 binaries if you want to run something closed.
Personally I would avoid that, so in that case it's mostly whatever is in the distro you're using plus maybe whatever the developers responsible for the port added. (ex: postmarketOS is based on alpine, but includes some extra stuff like gnome maps and phosh.)
The most important app I need (I wouldn't even need a smartphone otherwise) is Telegram - it's the major way we communicate in the company and in the family. Is it there?