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Ah, lovely of Amazon to employ the EXACT same people that Carnegie and Frick hired to beat and kill steel workers in 1892. How long before Amazon has the Pinkertons open fire on the unionizers?

Great prescident, Amazon. No bad choices here. Just the honest, fair dealings of the richest man in the world hiring the same people who've been murdering strikers and unionizers since 1850. Stay classy Jeff!




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the point of the comment is that this characterization is absurd and also you're a jerk you know that right


Corporations are people, legally.


Common nonsense and entirely false.

Corporations are treated like people for certain elements of the legal process (like the question of civil rights) because they are owned and operated by people, as a way for those people to do things together as a group (like exercising civil rights).

This line is a strong indicator that you're with or have been influenced by the "I hate Citizens United" people, who never seem to bother to remember that Citizens United itself was incorporated as a nonprofit, making a movie about Hillary Clinton with (non-tax-deductible) donations, as an exercise in those peoples' first amendment rights — one which the FEC sought to stop.

Anyway, Pinkerton's corporation has been replaced by a successor legal entity wholly owned by Securitas AB.


do you have any (not too legal\dry) background reading on this? I'm not in the USA, so I might have let my biases lead me in what to believe.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC

A judge ruled that a corporation was a person for the purposes of granting first amendment rights to run advertisements endorsing or attacking political candidates. The Koch Brothers could then spend an unlimited amount of money attacking any candidates who proposed environmental regulations, for instance.

It essentially shifted the power in America towards whomever had the bigger megaphone and more campaign financing.


I meant the other view, the one the person I replied to was hinting at. The one that doesn't make it seen like a horrible thing for society.


I don't have a ton of "legal" analysis but if you'd like partisan analysis of Citizens United I recommend the Libertarians — https://reason.com/tag/citizens-united/

(you will of course notice the usual partisan ramblings you'd expect from an overtly Libertarian outlet, but, well, they're the ones with interest and motivation to cover it).

But the amazing thing is that you can't say "look at this small nonprofit the FEC was trying to shut up" or even a talk that acknowledges the conflicts between what seems fair and enumerated rights. No, no, instead we must bring nonsense memes with negative information: "corporations and people are the same and Koch money has ended our democracy forever".


People and corporations are both regarded as entities. That doesn't mean one is another.

An apple isn't a pear, even though both are fruits.


Only partially, since corporations can be owned by people and other corporations, yet owning people is not legal.


If corporations were people, we'd see some face the death penalty.


And the people running those organizations change, biologically.


no, not really


Don't be obtuse.




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