I recently found out that on May 30th, there were numerous Secret Service members injured in a BLM/antifa attack (oh, scratch that, "peaceful protest") on the White House. I briefly wondered why I hadn't heard about that, then I chuckled at my own naivete. Of course, one might ask how that was coordinated, but then it was a peaceful protest, so who cares?
It's interesting he notes the ripple effects BLM protests in the capitol coming to head here. ~28:03 in the podcast
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It could be something that reaches all the way to Trump, or it could be due to the fact that the mayor of D.C. didn't like the heavy handed federal response to the BLM demonstrations that happened in D.C., in particular when Trump orchestrated his photo op in front of the church. So ironically, it could be a fairly woak mayor is resistance to heavy handed policing that left the capital undefended. That would be amazing to have that be the underlying cause of what is now being alleged to be proof positive of the truth of white supremacy and white privilege governing law enforcement in this country.
"The Secret Service said in a statement on Saturday that six protesters were arrested in Washington and “multiple” officers were injured. There were no details on the charges or nature of the injuries. A spokesman for US park police said their officers made no arrests, but several suffered minor injuries and one was taken to a hospital after being struck in the helmet by a projectile."
A few injuries, with perhaps only one serious enough to lead to a hospitalization. A far cry from a police officer beaten to death by a mob of right wingers invading the Capitol.
You seem to forget or ignore that one capitol rioter was shot in the neck/face and died. One officer allegedly died from a head strike from a fire extinguisher. Another committed suicide. I am not aware of any officer being beaten to death by the mob. One officer was caught in a door but survived.
I could, but why not search for it? As an exciting exercise, look at who reported it and, more interestingly, who didn't. Examine how the event was described, when it was described at all.
You'll notice some very interesting words there in the Secret Service write up:
> No individuals crossed the White House Fence and no Secret Service protectees were ever in any danger.
Does that sound like the scene at the Capitol where Congresspeople were hidden behind a makeshift barricade while an officer was forced to shoot a woman dead literal steps away from them?
> Numerous Secret Service agents were injured, fires set by rioters blazed near the White House and authorities were searching for car bombs
> The official initially put the number of agents injured at over 50, but that may have referred to the weekend toll; the Secret Service has since said the number injured on Sunday was 14.
50 people injured is a serious attack. It's interesting that leftists are allowed to continue their violent attacks for days, weeks, or months while right-wing movements are immediately suppressed. Yet we're supposed to be afraid of right-wing violence. Right.
I think you got me confused with someone else. I don't have any other comments in this thread.
How can you honestly say "Imagine trying to paint being against political violence as a partisan issue." while doing absolutely everything you can to minimize and excuse left-wing violence?
You completely dodged the one thing that is actually asked of the reader and tried to jump over the fact this entire thread is based on insinuating an abject lie: that anyone downplayed the George Floyd protests or what happened on Pennsylvania Avenue in any way.
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And how is saying that a successful breach of the Capitol Building while congress was trying to certify a new president that resulted in Congresspeople being subject to a clear and eminent danger...
should naturally be a bigger deal than people the Secret Service of all organizations are saying never posed a threat...
excusing the latter?
It's saying call a spade a spade.
Some people just can't handle that though. They need to act like it's not that big of a deal and the fact breaching the Capitol building tends to turn up the heat more than a group that never made it to the fence of the White House is a conspiracy.
If you can't handle the heat, don't breech the Capitol with Congress in session.
Surely the biggest difference between successful breach of the Capitol and an unsuccessful attack on the White House is the defence? Clearly the attackers/rioters had malicious intent both times, clearly they very extremely violent. The only real difference is the success/failure of the security forces.
That's one of the biggest differences, yes... did I imply otherwise?
The other two are the trigger and the timing.
The trigger being the President, and the timing, while Congress was in session trying to confirm the next President were what took it even further into the public consciousness.
I don't read the news much, so this is the first I'm hearing of people attacking the White House. These supposedly Trump-supporters... were attacking Trump?
The Secret Service referred to it as a demonstration, but people who are upset that the alt-right invading Capitol is a big deal, so they want to retroactively create equivalency to everything that happened over the summer...
so this HN reader overruled the Secret Service and labeled it an attack
> It's interesting that leftists are allowed to continue their violent attacks for days, weeks, or months while right-wing movements are immediately suppressed.
Why the passive voice here? Who exactly is doing the "allowing?"
From what I saw both Capitol police and Secret Service were doing the dual job of trying to de-escalate while securing the premises.
The obvious difference is that a) there weren't enough Capitol police so the Capitol got breached, and b) we still don't know why that was nor who may have aided the trespassers in breaching it.
That's the stuff of cheapo action movie plots. If there's a persuasive argument for believing group.chooseAtRandom() similarly breaching the White House wouldn't generate the same amount of outrage and fear, I haven't read it.
Did they forcibly enter into the White House, or like outside on public property? Protests with injuries aren't uncommon, but I really doubt they forcibly entered a government building and threatened people inside. Police & military are always well prepared ahead of time, well researched, in mass for leftist agitators.
