>Where was this rhetoric when Antifa and BLM burned and looted for months with the blessings of all corporations and the mainstream media? Surely the Capitol Hill has an insurance policy? Or does that moronic point only apply to the common folk?
Blessing? The blessing was for peaceful protests, the rioters were universally condemned.
>Susan Rosenberg literally bombed the Capitol in 1983 and now serves as vice chair of the board of directors of Thousand Currents, a "non-profit foundation that sponsors the fundraising and does administrative work for the Black Lives Matter global network, among other clients."
And served 15 years in prison for it with a 58 YEAR sentence. Clinton faced plenty of criticism for the pardon too. That being said, are you suggesting someone who has served their time should... permanently be ostracized by society? Prison is meant to punish not reform?
If you're suggesting she's still supporting violence, provide the evidence. Her book seems to indicate she has a different world view after spending time in prison. Literally the outcome we SHOULD want from people being arrested and imprisoned.
There was hand-wringing about “the language of the unheard”, bail funds being raised for arrested rioters, the author of a book titled “In Defense of Looting” being interviewed uncritically on NPR, Chris Cuomo on CNN rhetorically asking why protesters need to be peaceful, and many other such examples.
>There was hand-wringing about “the language of the unheard”
By who, this is supposedly coming from mainstream media, so cite your source.
>bail funds being raised for arrested rioters
By which major corporation or media group? Again, citation please.
>the author of a book titled “In Defense of Looting” being interviewed uncritically on NPR
That's what NPR does, they attempt to give a platform without injecting their own opinions into the interview. Regardless, I'd again say: citation, I even took the liberty this time for you:
>Chris Cuomo on CNN rhetorically asking why protesters need to be peaceful
It's great to take a part of a clip out of context. If you listen to the FULL clip - he's referring to protestors yelling and being angry and not following curfew (which he says they'll justifiably arrested for). In the very same clip he literally says
"Looting, arson, violence, now that’s something else. Don’t confuse that with protest or the people doing it with protesters"
So yes, taken out of context you can pretend that Cuomo was supporting violence.
slightly off-topic but I don't think a 58-year sentence will reform anyone more than a 10-year sentence would. The entire American prison system is built around punishing our prisoners.
I think you hit diminishing returns even before 10 years. Unless you have a reason to believe that if let out they would immediately do harm I would cap it at 5 for the very worst offenders.
Absolutely, I figured the argument would stand stronger with 10 years as, even if you're of the mindset that prison works, 10 years is obviously more than enough for the "rehabilitation." If anything, prison seems to breed more resentment for the system that put them there in the first place.
I really think the entire prison system needs to be rethought from the ground up though. It doesn't make sense that excons carry this weight with them throughout their life, failing background checks. If someone's been released from prison, they should be done with their punishment. Period.
Some people simply can’t be reformed; keeping them in prison for life is the only option.
In other cases, most violent criminals seem to be young men, so there’s some value in running out the clock so they aren’t young men anymore by the time they’re released.
I strongly agree that prison isn't the only option. At the same time, I can't support the notion that Charles Manson, Timothy McVeigh, Dylann Roof, and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev should all be free men today.
Be that as it may, and maybe they shouldn’t be free. But I don’t think they should be in prison either. You can have your freedom punitively stripped away from you without being held in prison.
The problem with capitol punishment is that it's irrevocable. Even though we know these people committed these heinous crimes, there's going to be a line for where it's not ok to sentence someone to death because the proof is not airtight. When cases are close to that line, there's always the chance that they weren't actually guilty. I believe this will be the case no matter where that line is.
Blessing? The blessing was for peaceful protests, the rioters were universally condemned.
>Susan Rosenberg literally bombed the Capitol in 1983 and now serves as vice chair of the board of directors of Thousand Currents, a "non-profit foundation that sponsors the fundraising and does administrative work for the Black Lives Matter global network, among other clients."
And served 15 years in prison for it with a 58 YEAR sentence. Clinton faced plenty of criticism for the pardon too. That being said, are you suggesting someone who has served their time should... permanently be ostracized by society? Prison is meant to punish not reform?
If you're suggesting she's still supporting violence, provide the evidence. Her book seems to indicate she has a different world view after spending time in prison. Literally the outcome we SHOULD want from people being arrested and imprisoned.