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Apple released a $400 to $550 iPhone SE in Apr 2020 after years of not having an updated small phone option, so I imagine many who really wanted a smaller phone jumped on that. And then 6 months later they came out with 12 mini, so I wouldn’t expect a size able amount of demand for the 12 mini would have been sucked up by the new SE.


The SE is fantastic as it’s much cheaper and works well. I switched from an XS and years of latest models and forgot how much I love thumb reader over face.

Apple Pay in particular is better with thumb reader instead of the tap, look at, tap again buggy process.


FaceID is great for me (and my aging parents), but not for some use cases (wearing masks, or starting usage while in pocket).

I could really get behind having both (esp if I could combined).


There was a rumor floating around that Apple was going to stick the reader behind the screen. Having both would be really awesome.


Masks will be solved if the user is wearing a Watch after the next update. Like the Mac itself, the Watch can unlock an iPhone.




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