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Stop shilling. And to have the galls to say something like Nano has the ability to take on Bitcoin just indicates that you very new to this market - and thus want to make a quick buck by shilling your random shitcoin. The thing which Bitcoin has, and that few others can match, is acceptability from a large swatch of investors and predictable security/emission schedule.

And, just fyi, Nano is not made of users. Go to its reddit and you will see everyone shilling it and having price targets on it. Stop giving such these weak arguments - most of us are in here for the money and don't give two hoots of the technology.




Attacking another user like this will get you banned here. Accusations of shillage are not ok unless you have specific evidence and in that case you should be sending it to hn@ycombinator.com so we can investigate. Internet cheap shots about astroturfing and shillage are explicitly against the site guidelines because they're so common, so toxic, and typically so completely wrong.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


> most of us are in here for the money and don't give two hoots of the technology.

Nice to hear someone say the quiet part loud. Could you tell all the rest of the most-of-us to be honest about that too? It'd save me a lot of time in conversations where people refuse to consider any Bitcoin alternatives because they'd lose money if people started to switch.


> most of us are in here for the money

This seems a little ironic after complaining about shilling.


Is it? It seems pretty consistent with their "cut the bullshit" theme.


> most of us are in here for the money and don't give two hoots of the technology

Monero's technology enables private and untraceable transactions. It's amazing and I own some just because of that property. Seems to be the only cryptocurrency that still aims to be an actual currency.

You're right about the altcoins though.


>Monero's technology enables private and untraceable transactions

Not exactly. The decoy inputs/outputs provide some plausible deniability when you look at a transaction in isolation, but over repeated transactions it gets gradually lost. It's not enough to pin you as a criminal with 100% certainty, but it's enough for the police to keep an eye on you and wait for you to slip up.


> but over repeated transactions

Doesn't this require an exchange to provide external information? It is my understanding that it's impossible to correlate transactions using blockchain analysis alone.


>Doesn't this require an exchange to provide external information

or a donation address, or a cooperative counterparty when you buy/sell something (think darknet market that got radided, or a payment processor that sells its transaction information).


I love Monero. The transactions are fast and cheap too.


Yeah, I spent about $60 worth and the transaction fee was $0.0000113.

That, combined with the privacy makes it seem really usable. I’d love a way to make cheap, private, digital payments


> most of us are in here for the money and don't give two hoots of the technology

Given that the technology determines the timeframe over which you can make money, this seems like a weird position to take.


No - not necessarily. IN crypto, it is quite possible to multiply your money when investing in altcoins - purely based on shilling and positioning with no technology to speak of. This is what the OP likely is trying to do here.


Fair point!


> And, just fyi, Nano is not made of users. Go to its reddit and you will see everyone shilling it and having price targets on it.

Not saying you're wrong, but this feels like every subreddit dedicated to a crypto.


That's because the problem is endemic to the cryptocurrency space. There has been very little serious work done on making any cryptocurrency usable as a medium of exchange, even for projects which claim to have that as a goal. Speculation is about the only activity that's possible for most coins, so that's what people do.


This is a bit off topic, but if you were here for the money shouldn't you just be in the stock market? It seems like the people who really try and analyze it (like in quantitative trading) do extremely well and if you don't have the time for that (who does outside of work), then mutual funds have a great return on investment and are significantly less risky and have a way lower barrier to entry. I am a bit ignorant on the economics of bitcoin (though I have built a miner and did all the merkle tree stuff), but its unclear how bitcoin is better unless you have a lot of capital already and can stomach the risk.


The Nano reddit is split up because of this reason:

You have NanoTrade where these things are discussed, and you have NanoCurrency where Nano itself and adoption is discussed.


People should be Giving Ada a Chance


What's wrong with shilling?


Nothing wrong. But then be honest about it vs. actually comparing a nonsense shitcoin with Bitcoin - and misguiding the users




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