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It's the same problem in non-capitalist systems that decide this by selecting what is covered or not.



Maybe capitalism is too specific here.

I mean that any system that has money or power as it’s underlying motivation probably cannot reach the kind of level that is possible since there will be people who are gaming and manipulating it to take extra for themselves.

My actual point is that we (human beings) have the technology, the knowledge, and the capacity for compassion required to live beautifully vibrant lives free of most of the health problems that we see in our societies. And we can have all that when we get out of our own way.


Im not sure your last statement is true or makes sense. Healthcare provision is not solar power bogged down by a specific technological or policy barrier. It's a complex service industry that requires a lot of human touch as well the capacity for innovation has no bounds on cost.

Nobody wants to spend 100% of their income on healthcare, which means saying no has to become a habit.


I may not have communicated my point effectively.

I'm not talking about Healthcare provision, or the complexity of the current service industry (the whole industrial complex around healthcare is

I'm saying: pretend we could sweep everything 'off the table' and start over. Not just the industries and the political systems, not just fiscal structures, not just the concept of money itself, but the mindsets of every human being.

And let me be clear: I do not think that this is realistically possible in any sort of reasonable time frame (I'm not even going to argue that it's possible at all).

But, now that we've hypothetically swept everything off the table, my point is that we have the building blocks to build a society where the majority of people are effortlessly healthy.

With a clean starting point, there's no reason to build in a way that companies gain by keeping people sick.

We as a planet know how to be healthy.

We as a planet know how to keep the environment healthy.

We as a planet know how to be emotionally, physically, and spiritually vibrant.

We as a planet know how to treat many diseases cheaply and effectively. (Not all. There's definitely still a need for medical R&D so don't @ me on that)

Yes, we could argue all day about how these ideas are not profitable or realistic or 'how things are done' in our current societies, but none of those arguments matter against the fact that we have more varied understanding and capabilities now than we ever have in the past.




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